From: fjh@mundook.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Fergus Henderson)
Subject: Re: ADA CORE TECHNOLOGIES ANNOUNCES GNAT-TO-JAVA SYSTEM
Date: 1997/09/21
Date: 1997-09-21T00:00:00+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <602opd$f2h@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> (raw)
In-Reply-To: dewar.874760620@merv
dewar@merv.cs.nyu.edu (Robert Dewar) writes:
>[Richard O'Keefe writes:]
><<Nope. "Slim binaries" are absolutely NOTHING LIKE P-code.
>Slim binaries are based on two ideas:
> - source code compresses very well
> - IO is slow.
...
> > compressed annotated abstract syntax graphs <
>
>At run-time, the Juice system reads the slim binary, decompressing and
>building the AST as it goes, and then runs a normal compiler back end
>to generate native code.>>
>
>This only makes sense if your compilers have succeeded in employing the
>techniques we developed in the 70's and early 80's to make compiler
>front ends absurdly slow.
I don't agree. There is an advantage in using a different format
than source code for distribution, even if parsing speed is ignored.
The advantage is that you can solve most of problem #1 of the two
you mention below.
>In practice, distribution of source has two problems, of a very different
>nature:
>
>1. Building large systems from sources can be a very tricky business,
>requiring skills that a user of the system does not necessarily have.
>
>2. For those who want to keep their software proprietary, distributing
>sources fills them with horror :-)
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Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
1997-09-11 0:00 ADA CORE TECHNOLOGIES ANNOUNCES GNAT-TO-JAVA SYSTEM Robert Dewar
1997-09-12 0:00 ` Stephen Leake
1997-09-13 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-09-14 0:00 ` Ralph Paul
1997-09-14 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-09-16 0:00 ` Ralph Paul
1997-09-16 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
1997-09-17 0:00 ` Tarjei T. Jensen
1997-09-18 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-09-17 0:00 ` Ralph Paul
1997-09-18 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-09-19 0:00 ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1997-09-19 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-09-20 0:00 ` Jay Han
1997-09-22 0:00 ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1997-09-20 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-09-21 0:00 ` Fergus Henderson [this message]
1997-09-22 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-09-15 0:00 ` Stephen Leake
1997-09-15 0:00 ` Mark L. Fussell
1997-09-16 0:00 ` Tucker Taft
1997-09-17 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-09-16 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-09-17 0:00 ` Stephen Leake
1997-09-18 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-09-19 0:00 ` translating to Ada, was " Tom Moran
1997-09-19 0:00 ` W. Wesley Groleau x4923
1997-09-20 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-09-23 0:00 ` multi-language to JVM compilers? W. Wesley Groleau x4923
1997-09-13 0:00 ` ADA CORE TECHNOLOGIES ANNOUNCES GNAT-TO-JAVA SYSTEM Tarjei T. Jensen
1997-09-14 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-09-14 0:00 ` Tarjei T. Jensen
1997-09-15 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
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1997-09-15 0:00 Marc Wachowitz
1997-09-20 0:00 Marc Wachowitz
1997-09-21 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
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