From: rav@goanna.cs.rmit.edu.au (robin)
Subject: Re: Is Ada likely to survive ?
Date: 1997/08/01
Date: 1997-08-01T00:00:00+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5rrtlt$i99$1@goanna.cs.rmit.edu.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 01bc977a$adaf91a0$8cb45ec3@newart.artel.it
"Valerio Bellizzomi" <net@artel.it> writes:
>Ada is the language I want to SUPPORT, because it is very suited for Large
>Applications development and maintenance. The Ada reusability mechanisms
>(such as packages) are the most powerful I've seen after 10 years of
>programming.
You'll find those attributes in PL/I, which has traditionally
been used for building large systems. Probably the most
widely-known of these projects is the Multics system.
PL/I for OS/2 has tools for building and supporting large
systems built by teams. It's known as the PL/I Toolkit.
That also was produced by IBM, who are maintaining it.
>robin <rav@goanna.cs.rmit.edu.au> scritto nell'articolo
><5qp3cf$aqc$1@goanna.cs.rmit.edu.au>...
>> safetran <safetran@kaiwan.com> writes:
>>
>> >I am looking for opinions on whether you think the Ada language is >going
>> >to be around in the next 5 years ? How about 10 years ?
>>
>> >I appreciate that with the over 50 million lines of US DOD Ada code >that
>> >exist and the numerous other Ada projects around the world, Ada will >be
>> >around for quite a while (to maintain all this code). However, I am
>> >looking at it more from the point of view of new projects.
>>
>> >I work for a **commercial** company in the US and we use Ada for
>> >embedded, real time applications. I am now about to start a couple of
>> >new projects and need to decide whether I should continue the use of >Ada
>> >or move to C/C++/Java. Things that worry me are:
>>
>> >(1) Will the compiler vendors be around in the long run.
>>
>> >(2)Its already difficult to find Ada programmers and many programmers >do
>> >not want to work in Ada as it has lower market value.
>>
>> >(3)My products have a life expectancy of over 10 years and so I need to
>> >find people to maintain the code in the long run.
>>
>> >Note: I have been using Ada for over 7 years and so am quite aware of
>> >its benefits and don't need to be convinced [I also program in C/C++ >:)]
>> >--
>> >Rakesh
>> >Rakesh.Malhotra@Safetran.com
>>
>> If you're worried about the long-term availability, and want the
>> benefits of Ada, why not consider PL/I?
>>
>> It provides the capability of Ada, particularly for real-time.
>>
>> IBM has recently brought out PL/I for Windows 95 and Windows NT,
>> and shortly before that, for AIX and OS/2. AFAIK, it is also
>> working on porting a version of that compiler for the mainframe.
>>
>> That company has had PL/I on its mainframes for the past
>> 30 years or so.
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Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
1997-07-18 0:00 Is Ada likely to survive ? safetran
1997-07-18 0:00 ` Stanley Allen
1997-07-19 0:00 ` robin
1997-07-23 0:00 ` Adam Beneschan
1997-07-22 0:00 ` Nasser
1997-07-23 0:00 ` Valerio Bellizzomi
1997-08-01 0:00 ` robin [this message]
1997-08-02 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
[not found] ` <5s6q6b$f3$1@goanna.cs.rmit.edu.au>
1997-08-09 0:00 ` Ejon
1997-08-10 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-11 0:00 ` Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
1997-08-17 0:00 ` robin
1997-08-17 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-22 0:00 ` robin
[not found] ` <5u3c69$5tj$1@goanna.cs.rmit.edu.au>
1997-08-28 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-30 0:00 ` robin
1997-09-08 0:00 ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1997-09-17 0:00 ` robin
1997-07-19 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-07-20 0:00 ` Paul Van Bellinghen
1997-07-21 0:00 ` Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
1997-07-19 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
1997-07-21 0:00 ` Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
1997-07-28 0:00 ` W. Wesley Groleau x4923
1997-07-29 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-07-29 0:00 ` dcw
1997-07-30 0:00 ` Steve Jones - JON
1997-07-30 0:00 ` HARRY R. ERWIN
1997-07-31 0:00 ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1997-07-31 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
1997-08-02 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-02 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
1997-08-03 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-07-31 0:00 ` HARRY R. ERWIN
1997-08-01 0:00 ` William Clodius
[not found] ` <5s6ng4$rq7$1@goanna.cs.rmit.edu.au>
1997-08-07 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
1997-08-11 0:00 ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1997-08-11 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
1997-08-01 0:00 ` William Clodius
1997-07-31 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-07-31 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
1997-08-01 0:00 ` Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
1997-08-03 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-05 0:00 ` Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
1997-07-20 0:00 ` Odo Wolbers
1997-07-21 0:00 ` Anonymous
1997-07-21 0:00 ` safetran
1997-07-22 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-07-22 0:00 ` Nasser
1997-07-23 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-07-27 0:00 ` jorgie
1997-07-28 0:00 ` Peter Hermann
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1997-08-04 0:00 Marin David Condic, 561.796.8997, M/S 731-96
1997-08-06 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-06 0:00 ` HARRY R. ERWIN
1997-08-06 0:00 ` rodney
1997-08-10 0:00 ` Fergus Henderson
1997-08-10 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1997-08-11 0:00 ` Jerry van Dijk
[not found] ` <01bca387$42ffbce0$18a9f5cd@asip120>
1997-08-13 0:00 ` Mark A Biggar
1997-08-13 0:00 ` HARRY R. ERWIN
[not found] ` <3404215f.0@news.uni-ulm.de>
1997-08-27 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-07 0:00 Marin David Condic, 561.796.8997, M/S 731-96
1997-08-10 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-11 0:00 ` Richard Kenner
1997-08-11 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-11 0:00 ` John English
1997-08-14 0:00 Marin David Condic, 561.796.8997, M/S 731-96
1997-08-16 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-17 0:00 ` Jerry van Dijk
1997-08-17 0:00 ` No Spam
1997-08-19 0:00 ` John English
1997-08-19 0:00 ` Mike Stark
1997-08-27 0:00 ` Jerry van Dijk
1997-08-19 0:00 ` John English
1997-08-19 0:00 ` John English
1997-08-24 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-26 0:00 ` Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
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