From: herwin@osf1.gmu.edu (HARRY R. ERWIN)
Subject: Re: Is Ada likely to survive ?
Date: 1997/07/30
Date: 1997-07-30T00:00:00+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5rnige$5d1@portal.gmu.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 33DD01FA.247D@pseserv3.fw.hac.com
W. Wesley Groleau x4923 (wwgrol@pseserv3.fw.hac.com) wrote:
: > > How many languages *haven't* survived?
: > FWIW, plenty: ALGOL 58, COMIT, COMTRAN, FACT, IPL-V, NELLIAC, SIMULA,
: > TRAC and many more. I don't expect Ada to die in 10 years, but there
: > is ample precedent.
From my obsolete or dying list: ALGOL 60, ALGOL 68, PL/I, APL, SNOBOL,
Pascal, CLU, Modula-2, Modula-3, JOVIAL, Prolog, Smalltalk-80. I'm sure
some people will beg to differ.
: I am aware of a 5 Mega-SLOC Ada project that used SIMULA quite a bit
: for modeling and prototyping, 1988-1994
Simula is wonderful for simulation, in some ways retaining advantages over
C++ and other more modern object-oriented programming languages.
(Smalltalk isn't bad, either.) Neither scale well. Ada 83 lacks support
for a lot of the constructs (e.g., coroutines, abstract data types,
inheritance, and dynamic binding; tools to support event scheduling,
activity scanning, and process interaction models; the integration of
continuous simulation) that serious simulation programming requires. (I've
seen one simulation programming environment ported to Ada 83 as a result
of the mandate. It was hilariously clumsy and completely nonviable.)
--
Harry Erwin, Internet: herwin@gmu.edu,
Web Page: http://osf1.gmu.edu/~herwin
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1997-07-18 0:00 Is Ada likely to survive ? safetran
1997-07-18 0:00 ` Stanley Allen
1997-07-19 0:00 ` robin
1997-07-23 0:00 ` Adam Beneschan
1997-07-22 0:00 ` Nasser
1997-07-23 0:00 ` Valerio Bellizzomi
1997-08-01 0:00 ` robin
1997-08-02 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
[not found] ` <5s6q6b$f3$1@goanna.cs.rmit.edu.au>
1997-08-09 0:00 ` Ejon
1997-08-10 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-11 0:00 ` Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
1997-08-17 0:00 ` robin
1997-08-17 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-22 0:00 ` robin
[not found] ` <5u3c69$5tj$1@goanna.cs.rmit.edu.au>
1997-08-28 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-30 0:00 ` robin
1997-09-08 0:00 ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1997-09-17 0:00 ` robin
1997-07-19 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-07-20 0:00 ` Paul Van Bellinghen
1997-07-21 0:00 ` Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
1997-07-19 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
1997-07-21 0:00 ` Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
1997-07-28 0:00 ` W. Wesley Groleau x4923
1997-07-29 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-07-29 0:00 ` dcw
1997-07-30 0:00 ` Steve Jones - JON
1997-07-30 0:00 ` HARRY R. ERWIN [this message]
1997-07-31 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-07-31 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
1997-08-01 0:00 ` Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
1997-08-03 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-05 0:00 ` Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
1997-07-31 0:00 ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1997-07-31 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
1997-08-02 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-02 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
1997-08-03 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-07-31 0:00 ` HARRY R. ERWIN
1997-08-01 0:00 ` William Clodius
[not found] ` <5s6ng4$rq7$1@goanna.cs.rmit.edu.au>
1997-08-07 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
1997-08-11 0:00 ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1997-08-11 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
1997-08-01 0:00 ` William Clodius
1997-07-20 0:00 ` Odo Wolbers
1997-07-21 0:00 ` safetran
1997-07-22 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-07-22 0:00 ` Nasser
1997-07-23 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-07-27 0:00 ` jorgie
1997-07-28 0:00 ` Peter Hermann
1997-07-21 0:00 ` Anonymous
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1997-08-04 0:00 Marin David Condic, 561.796.8997, M/S 731-96
1997-08-06 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-06 0:00 ` HARRY R. ERWIN
1997-08-06 0:00 ` rodney
1997-08-10 0:00 ` Fergus Henderson
1997-08-10 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1997-08-11 0:00 ` Jerry van Dijk
[not found] ` <01bca387$42ffbce0$18a9f5cd@asip120>
1997-08-13 0:00 ` HARRY R. ERWIN
[not found] ` <3404215f.0@news.uni-ulm.de>
1997-08-27 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-13 0:00 ` Mark A Biggar
1997-08-07 0:00 Marin David Condic, 561.796.8997, M/S 731-96
1997-08-10 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-11 0:00 ` Richard Kenner
1997-08-11 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-11 0:00 ` John English
1997-08-14 0:00 Marin David Condic, 561.796.8997, M/S 731-96
1997-08-16 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-17 0:00 ` Jerry van Dijk
1997-08-17 0:00 ` No Spam
1997-08-19 0:00 ` John English
1997-08-19 0:00 ` John English
1997-08-19 0:00 ` Mike Stark
1997-08-27 0:00 ` Jerry van Dijk
1997-08-19 0:00 ` John English
1997-08-24 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-26 0:00 ` Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
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