From: paul.johnson@gecm.com (Paul Johnson)
Subject: Re: Eiffel anyone? - Who uses it?
Date: 1997/07/16
Date: 1997-07-16T00:00:00+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5qi3oq$8ll$3@miranda.gmrc.gecm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 33C61545.167EB0E7@tower.com
In article <33C61545.167EB0E7@tower.com>, ivory@tower.com says...
>
>My friend's son is looking at colleges, and was startled to see
>that RIT appears to have a heavy focus on the language Eiffel for
>the first 2-3 years. He's using this as a black mark against the
>school. The thinking is that he'd rather be learning a 'real'
>language that has real-life value on the job market.
There is an important difference between learning to program, learning
a particular programming language, and learning software engineering.
The three are all different.
C++ (the obvious choice) is a highly complex language, so it takes a
long time to learn. This is time that will not be spent learning
good, solid software engineering.
OTOH once you have a grounding in software engineering, you can map
the concepts onto C++ fairly easily. This will help you produce
good software in any language, rather than being restricted to only
one.
Any competent software engineer should know a minimum of 3 languages
simply to get the range of perspectives.
The point about Eiffel is that it is a language for software engineering
rather than merely programming, and so makes a good vehicle for putting
over the concepts of software engineering. C++ does not.
Paul.
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1997-07-11 0:00 Eiffel anyone? - Who uses it? ivory
1997-07-11 0:00 ` Mike Stark
1997-07-11 0:00 ` Michael Schuerig
1997-07-11 0:00 ` Wes Groleau
1997-07-11 0:00 ` Richie Bielak
1997-07-14 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1997-07-11 0:00 ` Tom M. Chen
1997-07-11 0:00 ` robinsaj
1997-07-12 0:00 ` Ian Nelson
[not found] ` <33CA5E3D.475B@edwardjones.com>
1997-07-14 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
[not found] ` <33CB8E75.7CB1@edwardjones.com>
1997-07-16 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-07-16 0:00 ` Paul Johnson [this message]
1997-07-18 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-07-25 0:00 ` Jan Bielawski
1997-07-17 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1997-07-17 0:00 ` Walt Howard
[not found] ` <33CF6C0E.4983@edwardjones.com>
1997-07-18 0:00 ` Walt Howard
1997-07-18 0:00 ` Henrik Wist
1997-07-18 0:00 ` Technical Professionals and the humnaities ( Was: Re: Eiffel anyone? - Who uses it?) Chris Kuan
1997-07-18 0:00 ` Paul Johnson
1997-07-20 0:00 ` Thaddeus L. Olczyk
1997-07-22 0:00 ` Joseph M. Saur
1997-07-21 0:00 ` Eiffel anyone? - Who uses it? Don Harrison
[not found] ` <01bc94e6$9ced0820$287b7b7a@tlo2>
1997-07-19 0:00 ` Frieder Monninger
1997-07-22 0:00 ` Joachim Durchholz
1997-07-30 0:00 ` Glenn Williamson
1997-07-30 0:00 ` Brian Kimball
1997-07-31 0:00 ` Why I didn't like Eiffel Glenn Williamson
1997-08-02 0:00 ` Ian Nelson
1997-07-30 0:00 ` Eiffel anyone? - Who uses it? Brian Rogoff
1997-07-30 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-08-01 0:00 ` I use Eiffel! and other "strange tongues"! Jakob Engblom
1997-08-02 0:00 ` Walt Howard
1997-08-02 0:00 ` Ian Nelson
1997-08-02 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-03 0:00 ` Matt Kennel (Remove 'NOSPAM' to reply)
1997-08-03 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-07 0:00 ` Andrew Semprebon
1997-08-08 0:00 ` W. Wesley Groleau x4923
1997-08-08 0:00 ` Walt Howard
1997-08-11 0:00 ` Jeff Brown
1997-08-13 0:00 ` quadrafeline
1997-08-09 0:00 ` Adam Beneschan
1997-08-04 0:00 ` W. Wesley Groleau x4923
[not found] ` <dewar.870872376@merv>
1997-08-09 0:00 ` Heribert Slama
[not found] ` <5s8bsh$mo0@alumni.rpi.edu>
1997-08-06 0:00 ` C/C++ is the best teaching language??!? HARRY R. ERWIN
1997-08-08 0:00 ` Tom Valesky
1997-08-02 0:00 ` Eiffel anyone? - Who uses it? Sean Case
1997-08-02 0:00 ` Nick Payne
1997-08-02 0:00 ` Walt Howard
1997-07-31 0:00 ` Don Harrison
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