From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
Subject: Re: Safety of unprotected concurrent operations on constant objects
Date: Wed, 7 May 2014 14:14:19 +0200
Date: 2014-05-07T14:14:19+02:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5os0j7jd5moe.1eevhoxwpnpe5.dlg@40tude.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 536a1821$0$6706$9b4e6d93@newsspool2.arcor-online.net
On Wed, 07 May 2014 13:25:21 +0200, G.B. wrote:
> On 07.05.14 09:40, Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote:
>
>> They can even use C. What is the point?
>
> The point is that
>
> IF programmers want task-safety, and
> IF programmers need to respect timing,
> -----------
> THEN programmers may need to build safe solutions
> without "protected new".
I don't see where that follows from. Programmers may need do it without
dynamic memory allocation, unconstrained types, tasking, exceptions
whatever. Remove them from the language and anything else they may need go
without. Then we'll talk.
> The point is that, with "protected new", they cannot get
> their job done, in this case.
Which case exactly?
>>> If the programmer can request a "protected new" object,
>>
>> The choice is between requesting and not requesting this.
>
> The choice is between safety or not,
As well as between drinking beer or not drinking beer, whereas some might
incline to non-alcoholic beer.
--
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de
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2014-05-02 8:42 Safety of unprotected concurrent operations on constant objects Natasha Kerensikova
2014-05-03 13:43 ` sbelmont700
2014-05-03 20:54 ` Natasha Kerensikova
2014-05-03 21:40 ` Simon Wright
2014-05-04 0:28 ` Jeffrey Carter
2014-05-04 7:46 ` Natasha Kerensikova
2014-05-04 8:06 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-05-04 15:18 ` sbelmont700
2014-05-04 15:57 ` Natasha Kerensikova
2014-05-04 18:30 ` sbelmont700
2014-05-04 19:34 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-05-05 19:04 ` Brad Moore
2014-05-05 21:23 ` Brad Moore
2014-05-04 21:44 ` Shark8
2014-05-05 8:39 ` Simon Wright
2014-05-05 15:11 ` Brad Moore
2014-05-05 16:36 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-05-06 6:00 ` Brad Moore
2014-05-06 8:11 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-05-06 8:48 ` Alejandro R. Mosteo
2014-05-06 9:49 ` G.B.
2014-05-06 12:19 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-05-06 12:58 ` G.B.
2014-05-06 15:00 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-05-06 16:24 ` G.B.
2014-05-06 19:14 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-05-07 6:49 ` Georg Bauhaus
2014-05-07 7:40 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-05-07 11:25 ` G.B.
2014-05-07 12:14 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov [this message]
2014-05-07 13:45 ` G.B.
2014-05-07 14:08 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-05-07 17:45 ` Simon Wright
2014-05-07 18:28 ` Georg Bauhaus
2014-05-07 4:59 ` J-P. Rosen
2014-05-07 7:30 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-05-07 8:26 ` J-P. Rosen
2014-05-07 9:09 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-05-07 11:29 ` J-P. Rosen
2014-05-07 12:36 ` Safety of unprotected concurrent operations on constant objects (was: Safety of unprotected concurrent operations on constant objects) Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-05-07 14:04 ` Safety of unprotected concurrent operations on constant objects G.B.
2014-05-08 4:12 ` Brad Moore
2014-05-08 8:20 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-05-08 10:30 ` G.B.
2014-05-09 13:14 ` Brad Moore
2014-05-09 19:00 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-05-10 12:30 ` Brad Moore
2014-05-10 20:27 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-05-11 6:56 ` Brad Moore
2014-05-11 18:01 ` Brad Moore
2014-05-12 8:13 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-05-13 4:50 ` Brad Moore
2014-05-13 8:56 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-05-13 15:01 ` Brad Moore
2014-05-13 15:38 ` Brad Moore
2014-05-13 16:46 ` Simon Wright
2014-05-13 19:15 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-05-13 16:08 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-05-13 20:27 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-05-14 4:30 ` Shark8
2014-05-14 21:37 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-05-14 21:56 ` Robert A Duff
2014-05-15 1:21 ` Shark8
2014-05-14 14:30 ` Brad Moore
2014-05-15 8:03 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-05-15 13:21 ` Robert A Duff
2014-05-15 14:27 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-05-15 15:53 ` Robert A Duff
2014-05-15 16:30 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-10-26 17:11 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2014-05-08 19:52 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-05-06 16:22 ` Robert A Duff
2014-05-06 19:07 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-05-08 5:03 ` Brad Moore
2014-05-08 12:03 ` Brad Moore
2014-05-08 19:57 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-05-09 2:58 ` Brad Moore
2014-05-05 20:29 ` Natasha Kerensikova
2014-05-08 3:41 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-05-08 9:07 ` Natasha Kerensikova
2014-05-08 19:35 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-05-08 3:12 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-05-05 22:30 ` Brad Moore
2014-05-04 16:04 ` Peter Chapin
2014-05-04 18:07 ` Natasha Kerensikova
2014-05-04 18:55 ` Jeffrey Carter
2014-05-04 19:36 ` Simon Wright
2014-05-04 20:29 ` Jeffrey Carter
2014-05-05 22:46 ` Brad Moore
2014-05-04 20:25 ` Shark8
2014-05-04 23:33 ` sbelmont700
2014-05-05 7:38 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-05-08 3:45 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-05-08 3:19 ` Randy Brukardt
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