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From: adam@irvine.com (Adam Beneschan)
Subject: Re: Why Ada is not the Commercial Lang of Choice
Date: 1997/06/24
Date: 1997-06-24T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5opa6p$nfc$1@krusty.irvine.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 5odfhs$hqt@drn.zippo.com


>
>Paul says
>
><<1. Ada is not and never was a programmer's language. It was never
>meant to be. It was imposed upon companies that the DOD contracts in
>an effort  to create more reliable (i.e. bug free) products. They saw
>how much time and money was spent in fixing problems after a system
>was delivered and operational in the field. It is excessivly
>type-casted and cumbersome to use.>>

The above statement is curious.  It implies that there's a dichotomy
between a "programmer's language" and a "language designed to create
more reliable products."  The implication of this is that a
"programmer" is not concerned with how reliable his or her programs
are. 

I beg to differ.  To me, a "real" programmer (or, should I say, a
professional programmer) does care about reliability, and has no
desire to produce a program that has bugs in it.  A real programmer,
therefore, should IMHO appreciate a language that assists her or him
in creating more reliable software.  So, if the correct terminology is
used, the first statement above should really read:

"Ada is not and never was a hacker's language."

I think everyone can agree with that.

                                -- Adam

(P.S. I do not mean to insult those of you who are programmers at
heart, who would like to write bug-free software, but can't because
your company says it has to go out the door yesterday whether it works
or not.)




  reply	other threads:[~1997-06-24  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1997-06-13  0:00 Why Ada is not the Commercial Lang of Choice Paul Van Bellinghen
1997-06-17  0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-20  0:00   ` nma123
1997-06-24  0:00     ` Adam Beneschan [this message]
1997-06-17  0:00 ` Dale Stanbrough
1997-06-17  0:00   ` Robert Munck
1997-06-18  0:00   ` Ken Garlington
1997-06-19  0:00     ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen FOU.TD/DELAB
1997-06-19  0:00       ` Ken Garlington
1997-06-18  0:00 ` Nick Roberts
1997-06-18  0:00   ` Peter Hermann
1997-06-20  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-25  0:00     ` Van Snyder
1997-06-26  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-30  0:00         ` Ralph Paul
1997-07-02  0:00           ` Joerg Rodemann
1997-07-02  0:00             ` Joerg Rodemann
1997-07-02  0:00             ` Ralph Paul
1997-06-19  0:00 ` Steve Doiel
1997-06-19  0:00   ` Anonymous
1997-07-22  0:00 ` Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
1997-06-18  0:00 Robert I. Eachus
1997-06-18  0:00 ` Dale Stanbrough
1997-06-19  0:00   ` Robert A Duff
1997-06-21  0:00     ` Paul Van Bellinghen
1997-06-20  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-23  0:00         ` John G. Volan
1997-07-03  0:00           ` Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
1997-07-03  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
1997-07-06  0:00               ` Yasmiin S. Davis
1997-07-06  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
1997-07-07  0:00               ` Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
1997-07-04  0:00             ` Paul Van Bellinghen
1997-07-13  0:00               ` Ken Mays
1997-07-13  0:00                 ` Robert Munck
1997-07-14  0:00                   ` Ken Mays
1997-06-19  0:00   ` Steve Jones - JON
1997-06-19  0:00     ` Peter Hermann
1997-06-19  0:00     ` Anonymous
1997-07-17  0:00     ` Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
1997-06-20  0:00   ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-20  0:00   ` Don Harrison
1997-06-20  0:00     ` Roy Grimm
1997-06-20  0:00     ` Donovan Baarda
1997-06-20  0:00     ` Larry Kilgallen
1997-06-20  0:00       ` Nick Leaton
1997-06-23  0:00       ` Don Harrison
1997-06-24  0:00         ` Bertrand Meyer
1997-06-24  0:00           ` Nick Leaton
1997-07-22  0:00           ` Dr. Vladimir Il'ich Fomin
1997-06-23  0:00     ` Joachim Durchholz
1997-06-23  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-24  0:00       ` Don Harrison
1997-06-24  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-20  0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-21  0:00 ` Keith Thompson
1997-06-21  0:00   ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-24  0:00     ` Ken Garlington
1997-06-24  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-28  0:00   ` Robert I. Eachus
1997-06-28  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
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