From: kaz@vision.crest.nt.com (Kaz Kylheku)
Subject: Re: Software Engineering and Dreamers
Date: 1997/05/26
Date: 1997-05-26T00:00:00+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5mb3ra$1qj@bcrkh13.bnr.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 5m859v$2qr@mtinsc04.worldnet.att.net
In article <5m859v$2qr@mtinsc04.worldnet.att.net>,
Craig Franck <clfranck@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>I think you have a real bias against software; you could have just as
>easily have said "software runs technology". There may be a symbiotic
I don't think I have a bias against software! You might only perceive
that if you think that hardware is somehow superior, in that the job
of a hardware designer carries more prestige.
>You can define technology to mean just hardware, but software may just
>be plastic hardware. A lot of network and data communications algorithms
>and protocols get wired up as hardware for speed, in which case there is
>no software to discriminate against at the lower levels.
Digital logic still isn't technology. It's really a form of software. You can
change the underlying technology without changing the logic, and obtain the
same behavior, modulo a difference in performance. A data register made of flip
flops or an address decoder made from combinational logic can be done up in
TTL, CMOS, ECL, vacuum tubes or using water pipes and valves. The essential,
abstract behavior is totally separate from the implementation technology.
Unless you work in marketing, you wouldn't call an OR gate ``disjunctive
technology''. You see what I'm getting at? Sort of? :)
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1997-05-15 0:00 Any research putting c above ada? Jon S Anthony
1997-05-15 0:00 ` Kaz Kylheku
1997-05-15 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
[not found] ` <01bc6189$b074f500$LocalHost@xhv46.dial.pipex.com>
1997-05-16 0:00 ` Kaz Kylheku
1997-05-16 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-05-18 0:00 ` Nick Roberts
1997-05-19 0:00 ` NOT about "c above ada" W. Wesley Groleau (Wes)
1997-05-19 0:00 ` Any research putting c above ada? Michael Norrish
1997-05-20 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-05-20 0:00 ` Kaz Kylheku
1997-05-20 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-05-20 0:00 ` Michael Norrish
1997-05-20 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-05-20 0:00 ` Kaz Kylheku
1997-05-20 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-05-21 0:00 ` Kaz Kylheku
1997-05-21 0:00 ` Craig Franck
1997-05-22 0:00 ` Software Engineering is not a hoax... (was Re: Any research putting c above ada?) Robert I. Eachus
1997-05-22 0:00 ` Software Engineering and Dreamers Nick Roberts
1997-05-22 0:00 ` Tom Moran
1997-05-25 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-05-26 0:00 ` David Ray
1997-05-23 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1997-05-23 0:00 ` Kaz Kylheku
1997-05-24 0:00 ` jason hummel
1997-05-24 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-05-25 0:00 ` Craig Franck
1997-05-26 0:00 ` Kaz Kylheku [this message]
1997-05-26 0:00 ` Craig Franck
1997-05-27 0:00 ` Kaz Kylheku
1997-05-28 0:00 ` Fritz W Feuerbacher
1997-05-29 0:00 ` Craig Franck
1997-05-29 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-05-26 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-05-27 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-05-27 0:00 ` Dann Corbit
1997-05-26 0:00 ` Fritz W Feuerbacher
1997-05-26 0:00 ` Kaz Kylheku
1997-05-26 0:00 ` tstcroix
1997-05-27 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-05-27 0:00 ` Kaz Kylheku
1997-05-28 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-05-31 0:00 ` Nick Roberts
1997-06-02 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-06-09 0:00 ` Ralph Silverman
1997-05-27 0:00 ` system
1997-05-27 0:00 ` Kaz Kylheku
1997-05-28 0:00 ` Rich Miller
1997-05-28 0:00 ` Bryce Bardin
1997-05-28 0:00 ` Kaz Kylheku
1997-05-28 0:00 ` Lawrence Kirby
1997-05-29 0:00 ` Matthew S. Whiting
1997-05-29 0:00 ` Nick Leaton
1997-05-27 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-05-28 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1997-05-28 0:00 ` Fritz W Feuerbacher
1997-05-29 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-05-29 0:00 ` Kaz Kylheku
1997-05-30 0:00 ` Vibrating Bum-Faced Goats
1997-05-30 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-02 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-06-02 0:00 ` Nick Roberts
1997-06-07 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-02 0:00 ` Mathew Hendry
1997-06-03 0:00 ` Matthew S. Whiting
1997-06-03 0:00 ` Spaceman Spiff
1997-06-03 0:00 ` John Winters
1997-06-02 0:00 ` Mathew Hendry
1997-06-03 0:00 ` Martin C. Carlisle
1997-06-08 0:00 ` Joe Charlier
1997-06-09 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-17 0:00 ` Nick Roberts
1997-06-04 0:00 ` John Winters
1997-06-06 0:00 ` Volker Hetzer
1997-06-06 0:00 ` Mathew Hendry
1997-06-08 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-09 0:00 ` Jonathan Guthrie
1997-06-09 0:00 ` Mathew Hendry
1997-06-11 0:00 ` Jonathan Guthrie
1997-06-11 0:00 ` Mathew Hendry
1997-06-11 0:00 ` Crocodiles [was: Re: Software Engineering and Dreamers] Anonymous
1997-06-11 0:00 ` Off topic: Crocodiles Mukesh Prasad
1997-06-11 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-11 0:00 ` Mukesh Prasad
1997-06-12 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-06-11 0:00 ` Crocodiles [was: Re: Software Engineering and Dreamers] Spam Hater
1997-06-12 0:00 ` Anonymous
1997-06-17 0:00 ` Software Engineering and Dreamers Nick Roberts
1997-06-09 0:00 ` Craig Franck
1997-06-08 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1997-06-09 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-09 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1997-06-10 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-09 0:00 ` SE, Dreamers, and on and on and on W. Wesley Groleau (Wes)
1997-06-08 0:00 ` Software Engineering and Dreamers Jason Shankel
1997-06-09 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
[not found] ` <19970606.49CA70..12B91@ae124.du.pipex.com>
1997-06-07 0:00 ` Lawrence Kirby
1997-06-09 0:00 ` W. Wesley Groleau (Wes)
1997-06-10 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-10 0:00 ` W. Wesley Groleau (Wes)
1997-06-07 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-08 0:00 ` Mathew Hendry
1997-06-03 0:00 ` Ed Prochak - Woodland Consultants
1997-06-03 0:00 ` Craig Franck
1997-06-02 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
[not found] ` <01bc7042$609289e0$cb61e426@DCorbit.solutionsiq.com>
1997-06-03 0:00 ` Off topic response to an off topic message--> was:Re: " H. Blakely Williford
1997-06-04 0:00 ` Craig Franck
1997-06-03 0:00 ` Spaceman Spiff
1997-06-09 0:00 ` Kaz Kylheku
1997-06-09 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-09 0:00 ` Ceri Stagg
1997-06-12 0:00 ` Philip Brashear
1997-07-21 0:00 ` Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
1997-06-10 0:00 ` Vibrating Bum-Faced Goats
1997-06-04 0:00 ` Vibrating Bum-Faced Goats
1997-06-04 0:00 ` �Stephen!
1997-06-05 0:00 ` Kaz Kylheku
1997-06-06 0:00 ` Volker Hetzer
[not found] ` <01bc7a5b$9ccdd900$21320f9b@mindlin>
[not found] ` <5o7ahj$oos$1@news12.gte.net>
1997-06-18 0:00 ` Philip Hindman
1997-06-18 0:00 ` Spam Hater
1997-06-18 0:00 ` Spaceman Spiff
1997-06-19 0:00 ` Stephan Wilms
1997-06-20 0:00 ` Spam Hater
1997-06-19 0:00 ` Mukesh Prasad
1997-06-19 0:00 ` Craig Franck
1997-06-18 0:00 ` Spaceman Spiff
1997-06-19 0:00 ` Steve Howard
1997-06-19 0:00 ` Anonymous
1997-06-20 0:00 ` Spam Hater
1997-06-21 0:00 ` Spaceman Spiff
1997-06-23 0:00 ` root
1997-06-22 0:00 ` Alicia Carla Longstreet
1997-06-19 0:00 ` Stephan Wilms
1997-06-24 0:00 ` David Thornley
1997-06-06 0:00 ` Fritz W Feuerbacher
1997-06-06 0:00 ` Joe Charlier
1997-06-04 0:00 ` S. Norby
1997-05-30 0:00 ` Vibrating Bum-Faced Goats
1997-05-23 0:00 ` Mark Allen Framness
1997-05-23 0:00 ` Mark Allen Framness
1997-05-23 0:00 ` Kaz Kylheku
1997-05-24 0:00 ` Bill Anderson
1997-05-23 0:00 ` Software Engineering is not a hoax... (was Re: Any research putting c above ada?) Jeff Carter
1997-05-23 0:00 ` William M.Gordon
1997-05-23 0:00 ` Kaz Kylheku
1997-05-23 0:00 ` John Bode
1997-05-25 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-05-25 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-05-25 0:00 ` Craig Franck
1997-05-26 0:00 ` Software Engineering is not a hoax Laurent Gasser
1997-05-26 0:00 ` Kaz Kylheku
1997-05-27 0:00 ` Scott Stanchfield
1997-05-27 0:00 ` Dan Evens
1997-05-27 0:00 ` Scott Stanchfield
1997-05-27 0:00 ` Kaz Kylheku
1997-05-27 0:00 ` Scott Stanchfield
1997-05-29 0:00 ` Dean Runzel
1997-05-29 0:00 ` Kaz Kylheku
1997-05-30 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-05-30 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1997-05-29 0:00 ` Scott Stanchfield
1997-05-30 0:00 ` Lord Shaman
1997-05-28 0:00 ` Alan Bowler
1997-05-29 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-05-23 0:00 ` Software Engineering is not a hoax... (was Re: Any research putting c above ada?) Robert I. Eachus
1997-05-25 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-05-24 0:00 ` W. Wesley Groleau (Wes)
1997-05-24 0:00 ` Fritz W Feuerbacher
1997-05-24 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-12 0:00 ` Software Engineering is not a hoax Keith Shillington
1997-06-12 0:00 ` Kaz Kylheku
1997-06-17 0:00 ` brucemo
1997-06-17 0:00 ` Richard Turner
1997-06-17 0:00 ` Spam Hater
1997-06-17 0:00 ` Richard Turner
1997-06-12 0:00 ` Ralph Silverman
[not found] ` <33859489.7FB8@spam.inno <5nplh1$276@nntp.seflin.org>
1997-06-13 0:00 ` Michael Tippach
1997-06-13 0:00 ` Paul Mesken
1997-05-20 0:00 ` Any research putting c above ada? Les Hazlewood
1997-05-20 0:00 ` Newsthread integrity Nick Roberts
1997-05-20 0:00 ` Any research putting c above ada? Jason A Cunningham
1997-05-21 0:00 ` Stephan Wilms
1997-05-21 0:00 ` Jason A Cunningham
1997-05-16 0:00 ` T Wheeley
1997-05-16 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
1997-05-26 0:00 Software Engineering and Dreamers tmoran
1997-05-26 0:00 tmoran
1997-05-27 0:00 Marin David Condic, 561.796.8997, M/S 731-93
1997-05-28 0:00 Marin David Condic, 561.796.8997, M/S 731-93
1997-05-29 0:00 Fritz W Feuerbacher
1997-05-30 0:00 ` Kevin Cline
1997-05-30 0:00 ` system
1997-05-31 0:00 ` Lawrence Kirby
1997-06-02 0:00 ` Philip Brashear
1997-05-31 0:00 ` Kevin Cline
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