From: kaz@vision.crest.nt.com (Kaz Kylheku)
Subject: Re: Not intended for use in medical,
Date: 1997/05/07
Date: 1997-05-07T00:00:00+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5kqg8d$95@bcrkh13.bnr.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: E9rMuy.Hs0@world.std.com
In article <E9rMuy.Hs0@world.std.com>,
Robert A Duff <bobduff@world.std.com> wrote:
>In article <5kmek2$9re@bcrkh13.bnr.ca>,
>Kaz Kylheku <kaz@vision.crest.nt.com> wrote:
>>>> Yes, legal, but horrible. A good reminder of why Ada does NOT have
>>>> the ++ operator built in :-)
>>
>>By the way, the x++ is just another way of writing the assignment expression x
>>+= 1, or x = x + 1 (the latter case evaluates x twice, of course). The real
>>``evil'' perhaps is that in C an assignment is an expression rather than a
>>statement, so that you can decorate a complex expression with assignments all
>>over the place.
>
>I agree (except I'd remove "perhaps"). There's nothing wrong with
>having short-hand notations like "++" and "+=". The language design
>flaw in C is that assignments return something "useful", thus
>encouraging side effects nested within expressions, like a[i++].
>I'm not against *all* kinds of side effects, but I'm against most of
>them, including the one mentioned above.
Wouldn't you agree that C++ amplifies this problem greatly by not only
allowing assigments to return something, but also by allowing assignments
to serve as l-values? And without proper sequencing at that.
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1997-04-23 0:00 Not intended for use in medical, Robert C. Leif, Ph.D.
1997-04-24 0:00 ` J. Florio
1997-04-25 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
1997-04-25 0:00 ` Kevin Cline
1997-04-25 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-04-28 0:00 ` John Apa
1997-04-28 0:00 ` John M. Mills
1997-04-30 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1997-05-02 0:00 ` Nick Roberts
1997-04-28 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-04-29 0:00 ` Kaz Kylheku
1997-04-30 0:00 ` John Apa
[not found] ` <3367CE1E.5ED1@die_spammer.dasd.honeywell.com>
1997-05-01 0:00 ` Kaz Kylheku
1997-05-03 0:00 ` Simon Wright
1997-05-04 0:00 ` Richard Kenner
1997-05-04 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-05-04 0:00 ` Kaz Kylheku
1997-05-04 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-05-04 0:00 ` Richard Kenner
1997-05-05 0:00 ` Kaz Kylheku
1997-05-06 0:00 ` Kaz Kylheku
1997-05-06 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1997-05-07 0:00 ` Kaz Kylheku [this message]
1997-05-08 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1997-05-07 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-05-08 0:00 ` Kaz Kylheku
1997-05-08 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-05-09 0:00 ` Kaz Kylheku
1997-05-12 0:00 ` W. Wesley Groleau (Wes)
1997-05-12 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1997-05-14 0:00 ` Nick Roberts
1997-05-14 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-05-14 0:00 ` Jeff Carter
[not found] ` <dewar.863632434@merv>
1997-05-15 0:00 ` Kaz Kylheku
1997-05-18 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-05-15 0:00 ` Kaz Kylheku
1997-05-08 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1997-05-09 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1997-05-11 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-05-11 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1997-05-12 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-05-12 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1997-05-13 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-05-13 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1997-05-14 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-05-14 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-05-14 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-05-14 0:00 ` Nick Roberts
1997-05-14 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-05-15 0:00 ` W. Wesley Groleau (Wes)
1997-05-12 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1997-05-13 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-05-14 0:00 ` Nick Roberts
1997-05-14 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
[not found] ` <01bc6182$30e3a7c0$LocalHost@xhv46.dial.pipex.com>
1997-05-16 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-05-16 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1997-05-16 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1997-05-18 0:00 ` Nick Roberts
1997-05-18 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1997-05-19 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1997-05-19 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1997-05-19 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1997-05-20 0:00 ` Nick Roberts
1997-05-20 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1997-05-21 0:00 ` Dale Stanbrough
1997-05-08 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1997-05-10 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-05-10 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1997-05-11 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-05-11 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1997-05-11 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-05-11 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1997-05-11 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1997-05-12 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-05-12 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1997-05-12 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1997-05-12 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-05-17 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
[not found] ` <dewar.863877808@merv>
1997-05-17 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-05-17 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-05-21 0:00 ` Syntax for tagged record types (was Re: Not intended for use in medical,) Ben Brosgol
1997-05-20 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1997-05-21 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-05-21 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1997-05-22 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1997-05-25 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1997-05-28 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1997-05-23 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-05-23 0:00 ` Simon Wright
1997-05-23 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1997-05-25 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-05-28 0:00 ` Syntax for tagged record types (was Re David Kristola
1997-05-21 0:00 ` Syntax for tagged record types and class types Mats Weber
1997-05-21 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1997-05-22 0:00 ` Mats Weber
1997-05-27 0:00 ` Tucker Taft
1997-05-30 0:00 ` Mats.Weber
1997-05-22 0:00 ` Samuel A. Mize
1997-05-22 0:00 ` Samuel A. Mize
1997-05-23 0:00 ` Mats Weber
[not found] ` <mheaney-ya023680002005972314260001@news.ni.net <mheaney-ya023680002105972302430001@news.ni.net>
1997-05-22 0:00 ` Syntax for tagged record types (was Re: Not intended for use in medical,) Robert A Duff
1997-05-22 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1997-05-23 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-05-23 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1997-05-23 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-05-23 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1997-05-25 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-05-25 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-05-27 0:00 ` Ray Blaak
1997-05-23 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1997-05-24 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1997-05-24 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1997-05-28 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1997-05-25 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-05-12 0:00 ` Not intended for use in medical, John G. Volan
1997-05-12 0:00 ` Language Design Mistakes (was "not intended...") W. Wesley Groleau (Wes)
1997-05-13 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-05-13 0:00 ` W. Wesley Groleau (Wes)
1997-05-13 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1997-05-14 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
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1997-04-25 0:00 Not intended for use in medical, Robert C. Leif, Ph.D.
1997-05-12 0:00 Marin David Condic, 561.796.8997, M/S 731-93
1997-05-13 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-05-14 0:00 tmoran
1997-05-14 0:00 Marin David Condic, 561.796.8997, M/S 731-93
1997-05-14 0:00 Marin David Condic, 561.796.8997, M/S 731-93
1997-05-19 0:00 Robert C. Leif, Ph.D.
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