Re: Student responsability (Was: Any research putting c above ada?)

[sthuang@hns.com (Steven Huang)]

Laurent Gasser (lga@sma.ch) wrote:
: In article <EACHUS.97May1143942@spectre.mitre.org>, eachus@spectre.mitre.org (Robert I. Eachus) writes:
[...]
: >    But in reality it is the responsibility of the students to get the
: > knowledge that they need. 

: Professors shouldn't put the responsability onto students' shoulders.
: Students go to universities to be taught elements of what will be
: necessary in their future carreer.

No, students go to high school to be *taught*, but students go to a
university to *learn*.  In most countries first-year college students
should be around age 18 - which is voting age and/or drinking age and/
or age of consent in many if not most countries.  If students do not
have the motivation or direction, they should not and will not survive
college.  After all, they won't make it outside either.

College students are adults, and should be treated as adults.

: It is naive to belive that a student (by definition without experience)
: is able to reasonably elect what will proves to be useful in the long
: term.  Students do not even know the possible applications of a topic
: before they have learned it!

That's why there are such things as advisers - professors who guide you
along your learning career.  They are able to help you map out your
direction, but only if you ask.

: I know, I was one...

As was I, except I take responsibility for what I chose to learn.