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From: dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar)
Subject: Re: Refactoring and Ada
Date: 23 Feb 2002 15:21:15 -0800
Date: 2002-02-23T23:21:16+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5ee5b646.0202231521.4b41edf5@posting.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: u7ddjt7jko763b@corp.supernews.com

"Randy Brukardt" <randy@rrsoftware.com> wrote in message news:<u7ddjt7jko763b@corp.supernews.com>...


OK, if you want my 2cents on the UC issue in more detail
here it is. Yes, of course in general functions have to
be allowed to behave erroneously in this case. Consider
for example the case of a signalling NaN returned on a
machine where you are forced to put FPT results into an
FPT register.

However, UC to me is only defined as a function for the
convenience of the LRM. It is not a real function, and we
would be shocked to find a compiler that actually called
a function body using the standard calling sequence. 
Instead what we expect to see is very specialized intrinsic
code that makes sure that UC is well behaved in this kind
of regard.

To argue detailed semantics of UC assuming it is an ordinary function
is a mistake in my opinion. Indeed one
wonder whether it would not have been better to avoid
modeling UC as a function, and perhaps instead use an
attribute

   Integer'Unchecked_Conversion (X);

to make it quite clear that this is special. I also consider the above
to be quite noisy enough (the with
and instantiations are often a bit TOO much of a good thing).

Hmm! nothing to stop an implementation putting this in and
documenting its semantics as 100% operational (with a note
that you can use this attribute and ignore the ARG :-)



  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-02-23 23:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-02-01 15:13 Refactoring and Ada Paul Anderson
2002-02-02 17:48 ` Nick Roberts
2002-02-02 20:36   ` Pat Rogers
2002-02-03  0:21     ` Nick Roberts
2002-02-03 13:53       ` Robert Dewar
2002-02-03 19:23         ` Nick Roberts
2002-02-04  2:17           ` Robert Dewar
2002-02-04 20:48             ` Nick Roberts
2002-02-04 22:31               ` Pat Rogers
2002-02-04 22:43                 ` Marin David Condic
2002-02-06  2:51                 ` Nick Roberts
2002-02-03 18:50       ` Simon Wright
2002-02-04  4:32     ` Richard Riehle
2002-02-04 12:28       ` David C. Hoos, Sr.
2002-02-04 17:03         ` Richard Riehle
2002-02-06 17:19           ` Robert A Duff
2002-02-04 17:59       ` Robert Dewar
2002-02-04 18:50         ` Pascal Obry
2002-02-05  1:07           ` Robert Dewar
2002-02-05  1:44         ` Richard Riehle
2002-02-06 17:42           ` Robert A Duff
2002-02-06 17:32         ` Robert A Duff
2002-02-07  8:45         ` Dr. Michael Paus
2002-02-07 13:54           ` Pat Rogers
2002-02-03 13:48   ` Robert Dewar
2002-02-03 19:38     ` Nick Roberts
2002-02-04  2:20       ` Robert Dewar
2002-02-08 21:21       ` Paul Anderson
2002-02-03  9:45 ` Volkert
2002-02-04  0:06 ` Refactoring and Ada (tool I'd like to have...) David Emery
2002-02-08  9:24 ` Refactoring and Ada Martin Dowie
2002-02-08 15:15   ` Ted Dennison
2002-02-08 15:52     ` Pat Rogers
2002-02-08 16:07       ` OT : " martin.m.dowie
2002-02-08 17:11         ` Pat Rogers
2002-02-09 19:46           ` martin.m.dowie
2002-02-09 23:04             ` Pat Rogers
2002-02-10 13:57               ` Martin Dowie
2002-02-08 16:06     ` martin.m.dowie
2002-02-08 17:07       ` Pat Rogers
2002-02-09 19:48         ` martin.m.dowie
2002-02-09 23:05           ` Pat Rogers
2002-02-10  1:30     ` Marc A. Criley
2002-02-10  2:58       ` tmoran
2002-02-11 15:27       ` Marin David Condic
2002-02-12 19:16         ` Simon Wright
2002-02-15 19:43           ` Marin David Condic
2002-02-15 20:33           ` Matthew Heaney
2002-02-15 21:40             ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-02-19 16:54               ` Matthew Heaney
2002-02-19 19:39                 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-02-20  4:23                   ` Richard Riehle
2002-02-20  5:20                     ` Mark Biggar
2002-02-20  9:58                     ` Pat Rogers
2002-02-20 17:14                       ` Matthew Heaney
2002-02-20 17:18                         ` Pat Rogers
2002-02-20 18:08                           ` Matthew Heaney
2002-02-20 22:12                             ` Pat Rogers
2002-02-23 22:48                             ` Robert Dewar
2002-02-21  0:41                           ` Randy Brukardt
2002-02-21  1:31                             ` Pat Rogers
2002-02-22 14:37                             ` Pat Rogers
2002-02-22 21:23                               ` Randy Brukardt
2002-02-23 23:04                                 ` Robert Dewar
2002-02-25 20:26                                   ` Randy Brukardt
2002-02-23 23:21                                 ` Robert Dewar [this message]
2002-02-23 22:58                             ` Robert Dewar
2002-02-23 22:55                     ` Robert Dewar
2002-02-26  1:05                       ` Nick Roberts
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-02-05  6:15 Christoph Grein
2002-02-07 11:26 Christoph Grein
2002-02-07 18:31 ` Dr. Michael Paus
2002-02-08 12:45   ` Robert Dewar
2002-02-08 17:20     ` Dr. Michael Paus
2002-02-20  6:19 Christoph Grein
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