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From: dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar)
Subject: Re: Refactoring and Ada
Date: 4 Feb 2002 09:59:41 -0800
Date: 2002-02-04T17:59:41+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5ee5b646.0202040959.37f71ade@posting.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 3C5E0ED6.E2D52BD3@adaworks.com

Richard Riehle <richard@adaworks.com> wrote in message news:<3C5E0ED6.E2D52BD3@adaworks.com>...
> Pat Rogers wrote:
> 
> >
> I still prefer renames clauses when only one or two
> operators  need direct
> visibility.    Use type can be as dangerous as the full 
> use clause under some circumstances.


I find this bad advice, so I would appreciate some further
evidence for this rather remarkable claim.

By the way, I talked to a never-ever-use-use user of Ada
the other day who was appalled to discover that even if
you don't use USE clauses, you can have a case where you
write

       a := f (x);

where there were no other occurrences of f in the same
source file, no USE clauses, and the textual declaration
of f was in another unit.

This is of course standard in both Ada 83 and Ada 95 (if
you don't know how it arises, and always assumed that avoiding use
clauses guaranteed that this could not happen,
you have always been fooling yourself :-)

I often find that people think that avoiding use clauses
avoids this, and requires full qualification. In fact in 
the above example, suppose the only other occurrence of
f is in package p, then it is the case that trying to
qualify by writing

       a := p.f (x);

is not just unnecessary, but in fact illegal. 

Implicit declarations often surprise people :-)



  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-02-04 17:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-02-01 15:13 Refactoring and Ada Paul Anderson
2002-02-02 17:48 ` Nick Roberts
2002-02-02 20:36   ` Pat Rogers
2002-02-03  0:21     ` Nick Roberts
2002-02-03 13:53       ` Robert Dewar
2002-02-03 19:23         ` Nick Roberts
2002-02-04  2:17           ` Robert Dewar
2002-02-04 20:48             ` Nick Roberts
2002-02-04 22:31               ` Pat Rogers
2002-02-04 22:43                 ` Marin David Condic
2002-02-06  2:51                 ` Nick Roberts
2002-02-03 18:50       ` Simon Wright
2002-02-04  4:32     ` Richard Riehle
2002-02-04 12:28       ` David C. Hoos, Sr.
2002-02-04 17:03         ` Richard Riehle
2002-02-06 17:19           ` Robert A Duff
2002-02-04 17:59       ` Robert Dewar [this message]
2002-02-04 18:50         ` Pascal Obry
2002-02-05  1:07           ` Robert Dewar
2002-02-05  1:44         ` Richard Riehle
2002-02-06 17:42           ` Robert A Duff
2002-02-06 17:32         ` Robert A Duff
2002-02-07  8:45         ` Dr. Michael Paus
2002-02-07 13:54           ` Pat Rogers
2002-02-03 13:48   ` Robert Dewar
2002-02-03 19:38     ` Nick Roberts
2002-02-04  2:20       ` Robert Dewar
2002-02-08 21:21       ` Paul Anderson
2002-02-03  9:45 ` Volkert
2002-02-04  0:06 ` Refactoring and Ada (tool I'd like to have...) David Emery
2002-02-08  9:24 ` Refactoring and Ada Martin Dowie
2002-02-08 15:15   ` Ted Dennison
2002-02-08 15:52     ` Pat Rogers
2002-02-08 16:07       ` OT : " martin.m.dowie
2002-02-08 17:11         ` Pat Rogers
2002-02-09 19:46           ` martin.m.dowie
2002-02-09 23:04             ` Pat Rogers
2002-02-10 13:57               ` Martin Dowie
2002-02-08 16:06     ` martin.m.dowie
2002-02-08 17:07       ` Pat Rogers
2002-02-09 19:48         ` martin.m.dowie
2002-02-09 23:05           ` Pat Rogers
2002-02-10  1:30     ` Marc A. Criley
2002-02-10  2:58       ` tmoran
2002-02-11 15:27       ` Marin David Condic
2002-02-12 19:16         ` Simon Wright
2002-02-15 19:43           ` Marin David Condic
2002-02-15 20:33           ` Matthew Heaney
2002-02-15 21:40             ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-02-19 16:54               ` Matthew Heaney
2002-02-19 19:39                 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-02-20  4:23                   ` Richard Riehle
2002-02-20  5:20                     ` Mark Biggar
2002-02-20  9:58                     ` Pat Rogers
2002-02-20 17:14                       ` Matthew Heaney
2002-02-20 17:18                         ` Pat Rogers
2002-02-20 18:08                           ` Matthew Heaney
2002-02-20 22:12                             ` Pat Rogers
2002-02-23 22:48                             ` Robert Dewar
2002-02-21  0:41                           ` Randy Brukardt
2002-02-21  1:31                             ` Pat Rogers
2002-02-22 14:37                             ` Pat Rogers
2002-02-22 21:23                               ` Randy Brukardt
2002-02-23 23:04                                 ` Robert Dewar
2002-02-25 20:26                                   ` Randy Brukardt
2002-02-23 23:21                                 ` Robert Dewar
2002-02-23 22:58                             ` Robert Dewar
2002-02-23 22:55                     ` Robert Dewar
2002-02-26  1:05                       ` Nick Roberts
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-02-05  6:15 Christoph Grein
2002-02-07 11:26 Christoph Grein
2002-02-07 18:31 ` Dr. Michael Paus
2002-02-08 12:45   ` Robert Dewar
2002-02-08 17:20     ` Dr. Michael Paus
2002-02-20  6:19 Christoph Grein
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