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From: ok@goanna.cs.rmit.edu.au (Richard A. O'Keefe)
Subject: Re: Looking for a good Ada 95 book
Date: 1996/11/27
Date: 1996-11-27T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <57gpd3$1ri$1@goanna.cs.rmit.edu.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 57cofr$mgf@felix.seas.gwu.edu


mfeldman@seas.gwu.edu (Michael Feldman) writes:
>In article <dewar.848785112@merv>, Robert Dewar <dewar@merv.cs.nyu.edu> wrote:

>In my experience, even _professors_ who do not teach first-term courses
>underestimate the difficulty of doing so, and overestimate what can be
>taught. First-year (and even first-term) courses are, these days, being
>heaped with all kinds of stuff so that the students are "prepared" for
>all successor courses.

>We are doing this because we both think it's important to build the
>right foundation under the students' education. We may have our
>differences on some of the details, but (I think) we're quite in
>sync on the underlying fundamentals.

I would greatly value the opinions of the two of you as to what _should_
be taught in CS1.  In this department, I'm on record as saying that I
would be perfectly happy if students didn't learn about pointers at all
in 1st year (or OOP), but wish that the students _were_ taught the
elements of Polya-style problem solving and more particularly of _testing_.

The reason why I'd dearly love to see "How-to-solve-it" approaches
and testing taught in first year is that these are skills the students
_need_ in first year as well as in all the other years that follow.

(Oh yes, and remedial English.  Did I need to say that?)

-- 
Mixed Member Proportional---a *great* way to vote!
Richard A. O'Keefe; http://www.cs.rmit.edu.au/%7Eok; RMIT Comp.Sci.




  parent reply	other threads:[~1996-11-27  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1996-11-18  0:00 Looking for a good Ada 95 book Ray Toal
1996-11-18  0:00 ` Michael Feldman
1996-11-22  0:00   ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-23  0:00     ` Michael Feldman
1996-11-26  0:00       ` Jim Carr
1996-11-29  0:00         ` Dale Stanbrough
1996-11-30  0:00           ` Teaching Team/Maintenance Programming (was: Looking for a good book) Larry Kilgallen
1996-12-02  0:00           ` Looking for a good Ada 95 book Laurent Gasser
1996-12-02  0:00             ` John English
1996-12-13  0:00           ` Debora Weber-Wulff
1996-11-26  0:00       ` Suzanne B. Zampella
1996-11-27  0:00         ` Michael Feldman
1996-11-27  0:00           ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-11-29  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-28  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-23  0:00     ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-11-23  0:00       ` jim hopper
1996-11-23  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-24  0:00           ` jim hopper
1996-11-24  0:00             ` S. McLain
1996-11-25  0:00           ` Michael Feldman
1996-11-25  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-27  0:00               ` Michael Feldman
1996-11-30  0:00                 ` Frank Manning
1996-11-30  0:00                   ` Michael Feldman
1996-12-04  0:00                     ` Dale Stanbrough
1996-12-04  0:00                       ` Michael Feldman
1996-11-30  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
1996-12-02  0:00                     ` Frank Manning
1996-12-02  0:00               ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-12-02  0:00                 ` Michael Feldman
1996-11-27  0:00             ` Richard A. O'Keefe [this message]
1996-11-27  0:00               ` Michael Feldman
1996-11-23  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-25  0:00   ` Darel Cullen
1996-11-26  0:00   ` Darel Cullen
1996-11-26  0:00   ` S. McLain
1996-11-19  0:00 ` Richard A. O'Keefe
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