From: Adam Beneschan <adam@irvine.com>
Subject: Re: conversions between fixed-point types
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 15:42:18 -0700 (PDT)
Date: 2009-09-18T15:42:18-07:00 [thread overview]
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On Sep 18, 2:35 pm, Dirk Herrmann <fight_s...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am currently trying to learn about Ada's fixed-point types, and there
> are some points that I couldn't find any statement about, or which I
> simply could not understand.
>
> (Background: At my company there is a lot of code that makes heavy use
> of fixed-point calculations in a proprietary language. This language
> offers special support for fixed-point arithmetics. I am investigating
> whether Ada would be a better choice, and thus the fixed-point handling
> is important. Note that the decision to use fixed-point arithmetics is
> due to the fact that the target processors do not have a floating point
> unit - and this will remain this way for some time.)
>
> The first set of questions I have is about conversions between different
> fixed-point types.
>
> I realized that with GNAT for the following example types
> type FpA is delta 0.5 range -10.0 .. +10.0;
> for FpA'Small use 0.5;
> type FpB is delta 0.4 range -10.0 .. +10.0;
> for FpB'Small use 0.4;
> conversions from FpA to FpB work as follows:
>
> FpA FpB
> -1.5 ---> -1.2
> -1.0 ---> -0.8
> -0.5 ---> -0.4
> -0.0 ---> -0.0
> +0.5 ---> +0.4
> +1.0 ---> +0.8
> +1.5 ---> +1.2
>
> That is, the conversion is performed similar to a truncation (always
> choosing the closest value towards zero). However, in principle there
> are other possibilities how the conversion could be done:
>
> truncation floor ceiling round
> -1.5 ---> -1.2 -1.6 -1.2 -1.6
> -1.0 ---> -0.8 -1.2 -0.8 -1.2
> -0.5 ---> -0.4 -0.8 -0.4 -0.4
> 0.0 ---> 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
> +0.5 ---> +0.4 +0.4 +0.8 +0.4
> +1.0 ---> +0.8 +0.8 +1.2 +1.2
> +1.5 ---> +1.2 +1.2 +1.6 +1.6
>
> First question:
>
> There does not seem to be any definite statement in the reference manual
> of Ada 2005 about how exactly the conversion has to be performed. All
> of the above (and probably more options) seem to be legal, and GNAT just
> chooses truncation. Is that right, or have I already missed something?
I think you're right, even if the implementation supports the Numerics
Annex (based on G.2.3(10,24)).
> I have not even found a statement that a compiler has to be consistent
> with respect to the strategy it chooses. It might be possible that for
> different conversions within the same program different strategies are
> chosen. Regarding GNAT, I could not find any statement in the GNAT
> documentation about whether GNAT will do it the same way throughout.
>
> Second question:
>
> Is there any way to control how the conversion is performed? Maybe I
> have missed something and the language itself offers some possibility?
> Is there, for example, some attribute S'Round(X : some fixed point type)
> that rounds X to the nearest value of S? I could not find anything
> like that.
>
> Or, if this is not the case, do any libraries exist that provide generic
> conversion functions to achieve some or all of the "truncate", "floor",
> "ceil" or "round" behaviours? As I mentioned at the top of the mail,
> any solutions that would require conversions between fixed-point and
> floating-point to implement these conversions would probably not be
> acceptable for our systems.
The following seems to work if you want to round:
X : FpA;
Y : FpB;
Y := Integer (X / FpB'Small) * FpB'Small;
The conversion to Integer will round (4.6(33)). I didn't check the
resulting code, but this shouldn't use any floating-point operations.
Unfortunately, I can't think of a good solution if you want to insist
(portably) on truncation, even though GNAT does this by default.
Floor and Ceiling probably require you to write a conditional that
behaves differently depending on whether X is < 0 or > 0, but on most
processors that is probably about as efficient as if support for this
existed in the language and the compiler generated the code itself.
-- Adam
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Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-09-18 21:35 conversions between fixed-point types Dirk Herrmann
2009-09-18 22:42 ` Adam Beneschan [this message]
2009-09-19 12:41 ` Dirk Herrmann
2009-09-19 14:48 ` John B. Matthews
2009-09-20 8:15 ` Dirk Herrmann
2009-09-20 14:22 ` Robert A Duff
2009-09-20 18:55 ` Dirk Herrmann
2009-09-20 20:34 ` Simon Clubley
2009-09-23 20:46 ` Dirk Herrmann
2009-09-27 17:15 ` Simon Clubley
2009-09-27 19:22 ` sjw
2009-09-28 20:18 ` Dirk Herrmann
2009-09-28 18:37 ` Robert A Duff
2009-09-28 20:50 ` Dirk Herrmann
2009-09-20 15:18 ` John B. Matthews
2009-09-20 19:13 ` Dirk Herrmann
2009-09-20 20:09 ` tmoran
2009-09-21 17:24 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2009-09-23 20:57 ` Dirk Herrmann
2009-09-23 22:28 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2009-09-24 1:05 ` Adam Beneschan
2009-09-24 3:57 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2009-09-25 8:47 ` Stuart
2009-09-25 20:41 ` sjw
2009-09-25 21:58 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2009-09-28 13:40 ` Stuart
2009-09-26 14:43 ` Dirk Herrmann
2009-09-28 15:15 ` Adam Beneschan
2009-09-26 14:31 ` Dirk Herrmann
2009-09-19 18:38 ` tmoran
2009-09-20 8:22 ` sjw
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