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From: paul.johnson@gecm.com (Paul Johnson)
Subject: Re: The disturbing myth of Eiffel portability
Date: 1996/11/21
Date: 1996-11-21T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <57172k$325@miranda.gmrc.gecm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: vwj20dodc99.fsf@osfb.aber.ac.uk


In article <vwj20dodc99.fsf@osfb.aber.ac.uk>, pcg@aber.ac.uk says...

>Indeed one of the _major_ design goals of C++, according to its authors,
>is to allow the programmer to define new datatypes [...]
>
>In this respect Eiffel is rather less attractive; user defined Eiffel
>datatypes are not quite on a par with builtin ones either as to syntax
>(which IMNHO is not important) or as to performance (which matters for
>very fine granularity datatypes).

Syntax first: I think you will find that the built-in Eiffel data types
are on a par with the user-defined ones: unlike C++ things like integer
and array are defined as classes.

Efficiency: see the thread about benchmarks.  Where exactly do you think
that user defined data types lose performance?

>  It is rather significant IMNHO that Eiffel 3 has now expanded
>  datatypes, which however small a detail, allows for _considerable_
>  improvements in performance, in particular asd to garbage collection.

More importantly, it has allowed the builtin data types to become part of
the class hierarchy.

Paul.

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  reply	other threads:[~1996-11-21  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1996-11-15  0:00 The disturbing myth of Eiffel portability The Rt Rev'd Colin James III, KOTM 1/96
1996-11-17  0:00 ` Lawrence Kirby
1996-11-17  0:00 ` Eoin Woods
1996-11-17  0:00 ` The Rt Rev'd Colin James III, KOTM 1/96
1996-11-18  0:00   ` James Youngman
1996-11-20  0:00     ` Piercarlo Grandi
1996-11-21  0:00       ` Paul Johnson [this message]
1996-11-27  0:00         ` Piercarlo Grandi
1996-11-28  0:00           ` Don Harrison
1996-11-29  0:00             ` Piercarlo Grandi
1996-11-29  0:00               ` Don Harrison
1996-11-30  0:00                 ` Piercarlo Grandi
1996-12-01  0:00                 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-12-02  0:00                   ` Piercarlo Grandi
1996-11-29  0:00             ` Piercarlo Grandi
1996-11-29  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-29  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-20  0:00   ` Jeff Miller
1996-11-20  0:00     ` Piercarlo Grandi
1996-11-18  0:00 ` Stephen J Bevan
1996-11-19  0:00 ` Kaz Kylheku
1996-11-19  0:00   ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-20  0:00     ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-11-21  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-22  0:00         ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-11-22  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1996-12-01  0:00             ` Graham C. Hughes
1996-12-01  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1996-12-02  0:00                 ` Brian R. Hanson
1996-12-06  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
1996-12-09  0:00                     ` Brian R. Hanson
1996-11-26  0:00         ` Van Snyder
1996-11-22  0:00       ` Ken Garlington
1996-11-25  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-20  0:00     ` Matt Kennel
1996-11-22  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-21  0:00     ` Francois Labreque
1996-11-21  0:00       ` Kaz Kylheku
1996-11-24  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-21  0:00     ` Keith Thompson
1996-11-21  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-22  0:00       ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-11-24  0:00       ` Lawrence Kirby
1996-11-20  0:00   ` James Mansion
1996-11-20  0:00     ` Kaz Kylheku
1996-11-25  0:00   ` Joachim Durchholz
1996-11-26  0:00     ` Lawrence Kirby
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