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From: rav@goanna.cs.rmit.edu.au (robin)
Subject: Re: Leading zeros with Int_IO.Put()? Or another package?
Date: 1996/11/19
Date: 1996-11-19T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56rgou$r4k$1@goanna.cs.rmit.edu.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 328A0DDD.94B@lmtas.lmco.com


Ken Garlington <garlingtonke@lmtas.lmco.com> writes:

	>robin wrote:
	>> 
	>> PL/I picture editing is a lot simpler than using Ada's,
	>> which -- if implemented by the compiler -- applies to decimal types.

	>Absolutely true. Ada implements strong type checking, which can make
	>writing Ada more complex. The advtantages of strong type checking tend
	>to outweigh this, however, particularly for large and/or critical systems.

	>From the Introduction section of ISO/IEC 8652:1995:

	>"The need for languages that promote reliability and simplify maintenance
	>is well established. Hence emphasis was placed on program readability over
	>ease of writing."

Ada clearly failed in this aspect.

	>> For *any* data type -- binary integer, decimal integer,
	>> float, complex, etc, PL/I has full picture editing.
	>> 
	>> It's ony necessary to use a simple line such as:
	>> 
	>> put edit (n) (P'-99999999');
	>> 
	>> or, for the real mccoy,
	>> 
	>> put edit (d) (P'999.V999');     [d is decimal fixed with fraction,
	>>                                  or floating-point, PICTURE, etc]
	>> 
	>> which is a lot less than the (up to) 82 lines of Ada code
	>> suggested by various posters to force zeros to print.

	>Of course, once you have the zero-fill package (or whatever
	>other abstraction you intend to reuse), the number of lines
	>you have to write drops quite a bit.

No excuse for having everyone who wants to use such a facility
to have to write it.

It is, after all, avalable ina number of languages including COBOL
and PL/I.

The simplicity and usefulness of PL/I in producing
zero suppression/insertion of characters/general editing/
in a variety of forms (integer, fixed-point, floating-point) and suitable
for business and science cannot be refuted.

As I indicated earlier, just one short line will suffice! :

put edit (d) (P'999.V999');




  reply	other threads:[~1996-11-19  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1996-11-05  0:00 Leading zeros with Int_IO.Put()? Or another package? J.D. Baldwin
1996-11-05  0:00 ` David Shochat
1996-11-08  0:00   ` robin
1996-11-08  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-10  0:00       ` Verne Arase
1996-11-13  0:00       ` robin
1996-11-13  0:00         ` Ken Garlington
1996-11-19  0:00           ` robin [this message]
1996-11-19  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-20  0:00             ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-11-20  0:00               ` robin
1996-11-20  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-22  0:00                   ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-11-25  0:00                   ` shmuel
1996-11-20  0:00                 ` Larry J. Elmore
1996-11-25  0:00                   ` robin
1996-11-25  0:00                     ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-26  0:00                     ` Larry J. Elmore
1996-11-20  0:00                 ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-11-22  0:00                   ` robin
1996-11-22  0:00                     ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-11-23  0:00                       ` robin
1996-11-21  0:00                 ` Jerry Coffin
1996-11-22  0:00                 ` Ken Garlington
1996-11-20  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-20  0:00             ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-11-22  0:00             ` Ken Garlington
1996-11-27  0:00               ` Verne Arase
1996-12-02  0:00                 ` Ken Garlington
     [not found]             ` <56tjrh$4a <MPLANET.3294c204jcoffin989a3e@news.rmi.net>
1996-11-24  0:00               ` Bert
1996-11-13  0:00       ` robin
1996-11-13  0:00         ` Ken Garlington
1996-11-19  0:00           ` robin
1996-11-22  0:00             ` Ken Garlington
1996-11-22  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-17  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-08  0:00     ` Ken Garlington
1996-11-21  0:00   ` Robert I. Eachus
1996-11-22  0:00     ` robin
1996-11-05  0:00 ` Samuel Tardieu
1996-11-06  0:00 ` Stephen Leake
1996-11-06  0:00 ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-11-07  0:00   ` Pascal Obry
1996-11-07  0:00     ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-11-08  0:00   ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-11-09  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-06  0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1996-11-08  0:00   ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-11-08  0:00 ` David Emery
1996-11-24  0:00 ` Fergus Henderson
1996-11-24  0:00   ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-25  0:00     ` J. David Bryan
1996-11-25  0:00     ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-11-27  0:00     ` Verne Arase
1996-11-28  0:00   ` Richard A. O'Keefe
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
1996-11-05  0:00 Collection of 2500+ links about Object-Orientation - interested ? Manfred Schneider
1996-11-07  0:00 ` Leading zeros with Int_IO.Put()? Or another package? John Herro
1996-11-07  0:00   ` James Rogers
1996-11-07  0:00   ` Robert Dewar
1996-12-15  0:00 Robert Dewar
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