From: ell@access4.digex.net (Ell)
Subject: Re: Eiffel and Java
Date: 1996/11/02
Date: 1996-11-02T00:00:00+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <55e611$abq@news3.digex.net> (raw)
Ranjan Bagchi (ranjan.bagchi@pobox.com) wrote:
: Chris wrote:
: >
: > The point with Java is that it's nearly C++.
: >
: > So, even if it's not the best language, the C++ community would choose it
: >
: > That's enough to make it a standard !
: >
: > Chris
: Note: Smalltalk bias.
:
: I'd think that this kind standard would tend to produce a lot of Java
: code which is just "C++ written in Java". That is C++ code with
: whatever syntactic tweaking is needed to get it pass the compiler.
And there are large amounts of fully object-oriented C++, just as there
are other forms of C++ code. I.e. there is much C++ code which models in
an OO way, and which uses OO design techniques to reduce dependencies.
: This is similar to what has happened in the C++ community where the joke
: was that there were only 5 real C++ programmers and everyone else was
: just coding C. There wasn't enough incentive to use the kind of C++
: idioms that Coplien and Myers write about in their books.
:
: That's what's really neat about languages like Smalltalk where
: the language forces programmers to start thinking in Smalltalk's object
: model and produce Smalltalk written in Smalltalk.
Isn't it possible for someone to write a Smalltalk program with bad design
decompostion from an OO perspective?
Elliott
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1996-11-01 0:00 ` Matt Kennel
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1996-11-04 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
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