From: mfeldman@seas.gwu.edu (Michael Feldman)
Subject: Re: Looking for good Ada95 book
Date: 1996/10/30
Date: 1996-10-30T00:00:00+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <55955a$n04@felix.seas.gwu.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: dewar.846630258@merv
In article <dewar.846630258@merv>, Robert Dewar <dewar@merv.cs.nyu.edu> wrote:
>Fran Post says
>This seems like a type error to me (comparing values of different types).
>The Feldman books are not Ada books, they are CS1/2 books that happen to
>use Ada, and I find them well written for this purpose (I stil don't like
>the horrible non-standard keyword/identifier style, but other than that ...:-)
Your characterization of the books is correct, Robert, though I think
it's going too far to describe the lexical style as "horrible." It
does what it is intended to do.
>The Barnes book IS an Ada book.
In the sense that it is intended for experienced programmers interested
in learning the language, per se. For this purpose, I agree that it is
an excellent book. My only quibble - which I've had since the first
edition back in the early 80's - is that it is full of fragmentary bits
of code, with VERY few full programs. Even experienced programmers
(in my experience teaching industry courses) get trapped by the
"what-goes-where" problem and really value seeing full, compilable
programs. For full programs, I think Cohen's book, and Naiditch's,
do a better job.
>If you don't know how to design programs, and want to learn, and want to
>learn using Ada, you will find Feldman's book much more appropriate than
>Barnes. If you know how to design programs and want to learn specifically
>about Ada, then the Barnes book is much more appropriate.
I agree wholeheartedly. We have written for different sets of readers.
The biggest risk in practitioners using books like mine is that there
are _big_ chunks of the language that I don't breathe a word about.
With a 700 or 800 page limit, something's gotta give.:-)
Mike Feldman
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1996-10-26 0:00 Looking for good Ada95 book Lars Lundgren
1996-10-28 0:00 ` Rapicault Pascal
[not found] ` <01bbc5d8$a3b24e00$6a9148a6@cornerstone.mydomain.org>
1996-10-29 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-30 0:00 ` Michael Feldman [this message]
1996-11-02 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-03 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-11-03 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-03 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1996-11-04 0:00 ` Michael F Brenner
1996-11-04 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-11-04 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-09 0:00 ` Michael Feldman
1996-11-11 0:00 ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-11-12 0:00 ` Mark Shaw
1996-11-06 0:00 ` James Thiele
1996-11-08 0:00 ` Stephen Leake
1996-11-06 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-11-06 0:00 ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-11-06 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-04 0:00 ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-11-04 0:00 ` Jerry Petrey
1996-11-06 0:00 ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-11-09 0:00 ` Michael Feldman
1996-11-05 0:00 ` Silliness (was: Looking for good Ada95 book) Adam Beneschan
1996-11-06 0:00 ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-11-06 0:00 ` Chris Morgan
1996-11-08 0:00 ` bill.williams
1996-11-09 0:00 ` Michael Feldman
1996-11-09 0:00 ` Looking for good Ada95 book Michael Feldman
1996-11-10 0:00 ` Lars Farm
1996-11-10 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-11 0:00 ` Lars Farm
1996-11-12 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-12 0:00 ` Lars Farm
1996-11-14 0:00 ` Capitalization Entropy (was: Looking for good Ada95 book) Scott James
1996-11-14 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-11-18 0:00 ` Looking for good Ada95 book Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-11-12 0:00 ` Michael Feldman
1996-11-17 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-18 0:00 ` Richard Pattis
1996-11-19 0:00 ` Do-While Jones
1996-11-20 0:00 ` John English
1996-11-20 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-11-21 0:00 ` FerretWoman
1996-11-22 0:00 ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-11-24 0:00 ` Fergus Henderson
1996-11-18 0:00 ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-11-18 0:00 ` Michael Feldman
1996-11-20 0:00 ` Testing teaching belief? Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-11-20 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-22 0:00 ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-11-29 0:00 ` Debora Weber-Wulff
1996-12-01 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-20 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-14 0:00 ` Looking for good Ada95 book Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-10-31 0:00 ` Tom Pastuszak
1996-10-28 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-11-04 0:00 ` John English
1996-11-06 0:00 ` Wolfgang Gellerich
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