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From: mfeldman@seas.gwu.edu (Michael Feldman)
Subject: Re: Looking for good Ada95 book
Date: 1996/10/30
Date: 1996-10-30T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55955a$n04@felix.seas.gwu.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: dewar.846630258@merv


In article <dewar.846630258@merv>, Robert Dewar <dewar@merv.cs.nyu.edu> wrote:
>Fran Post says

>This seems like a type error to me (comparing values of different types).
>The Feldman books are not Ada books, they are CS1/2 books that happen to
>use Ada, and I find them well written for this purpose (I stil don't like
>the horrible non-standard keyword/identifier style, but other than that ...:-)

Your characterization of the books is correct, Robert, though I think
it's going too far to describe the lexical style as "horrible." It
does what it is intended to do.

>The Barnes book IS an Ada book.

In the sense that it is intended for experienced programmers interested
in learning the language, per se. For this purpose, I agree that it is
an excellent book. My only quibble - which I've had since the first
edition back in the early 80's - is that it is full of fragmentary bits
of code, with VERY few full programs. Even experienced programmers
(in my experience teaching industry courses) get trapped by the 
"what-goes-where" problem and really value seeing full, compilable
programs. For full programs, I think Cohen's book, and Naiditch's,
do a better job.

>If you don't know how to design programs, and want to learn, and want to
>learn using Ada, you will find Feldman's book much more appropriate than
>Barnes. If you know how to design programs and want to learn specifically
>about Ada, then the Barnes book is much more appropriate.

I agree wholeheartedly. We have written for different sets of readers.
The biggest risk in practitioners using books like mine is that there
are _big_ chunks of the language that I don't breathe a word about.
With a 700 or 800 page limit, something's gotta give.:-)

Mike Feldman
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Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1996-10-26  0:00 Looking for good Ada95 book Lars Lundgren
1996-10-28  0:00 ` Rapicault Pascal
     [not found]   ` <01bbc5d8$a3b24e00$6a9148a6@cornerstone.mydomain.org>
1996-10-29  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-30  0:00       ` Michael Feldman [this message]
1996-11-02  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-03  0:00           ` Robert A Duff
1996-11-03  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-03  0:00           ` Matthew Heaney
1996-11-04  0:00           ` Michael F Brenner
1996-11-04  0:00             ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-11-04  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-09  0:00                 ` Michael Feldman
1996-11-11  0:00                   ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-11-12  0:00                     ` Mark Shaw
1996-11-06  0:00               ` James Thiele
1996-11-08  0:00                 ` Stephen Leake
1996-11-06  0:00             ` Robert A Duff
1996-11-06  0:00             ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-11-06  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-04  0:00           ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-11-04  0:00             ` Jerry Petrey
1996-11-06  0:00               ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-11-09  0:00               ` Michael Feldman
1996-11-05  0:00             ` Silliness (was: Looking for good Ada95 book) Adam Beneschan
1996-11-06  0:00               ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-11-06  0:00           ` Chris Morgan
1996-11-08  0:00           ` bill.williams
1996-11-09  0:00             ` Michael Feldman
1996-11-09  0:00           ` Looking for good Ada95 book Michael Feldman
1996-11-10  0:00             ` Lars Farm
1996-11-10  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-11  0:00                 ` Lars Farm
1996-11-12  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-12  0:00                     ` Lars Farm
1996-11-14  0:00                       ` Capitalization Entropy (was: Looking for good Ada95 book) Scott James
1996-11-14  0:00                         ` Robert A Duff
1996-11-18  0:00                   ` Looking for good Ada95 book Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-11-12  0:00                 ` Michael Feldman
1996-11-17  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-18  0:00                     ` Richard Pattis
1996-11-19  0:00                       ` Do-While Jones
1996-11-20  0:00                       ` John English
1996-11-20  0:00                         ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-11-21  0:00                       ` FerretWoman
1996-11-22  0:00                         ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-11-24  0:00                           ` Fergus Henderson
1996-11-18  0:00                   ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-11-18  0:00                     ` Michael Feldman
1996-11-20  0:00                       ` Testing teaching belief? Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-11-20  0:00                         ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-22  0:00                           ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-11-29  0:00                             ` Debora Weber-Wulff
1996-12-01  0:00                               ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-20  0:00                         ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-14  0:00             ` Looking for good Ada95 book Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-10-31  0:00       ` Tom Pastuszak
1996-10-28  0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-11-04  0:00 ` John English
1996-11-06  0:00 ` Wolfgang Gellerich
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1996-11-12  0:00 Marin David Condic, 561.796.8997, M/S 731-93
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