From: already5chosen@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Could you write a BSD like os in ADA?
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 09:37:21 -0700 (PDT)
Date: 2016-08-24T09:37:21-07:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <54cb43d2-3879-49da-a0cc-3b056c385cd5@googlegroups.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <npkftc$qf$1@gioia.aioe.org>
On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 at 6:53:19 PM UTC+3, Bob Broderbund wrote:
> On 2016-08-24, already5chosen@yahoo.com <already5chosen@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 at 6:15:09 PM UTC+3, Bob Broderbund wrote:
> >> On 2016-08-23, already5chosen@yahoo.com <already5chosen@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> > On Monday, August 22, 2016 at 12:49:07 PM UTC+3, Bob Broderbund wrote:
> >> >> On 2016-08-22, Dmitry A. Kazakov <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> wrote:
> >> >> > On 22/08/2016 07:01, J-P. Rosen wrote:
> >> >> >> Le 22/08/2016 ?? 02:18, Andrew Shvets a ??crit :
> >> >> >>> What would you consider to be a well designed operating system?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> VMS! :-)
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Yes, VMS was likely the best OS ever.
> >> >>
> >> >> Close.. try another permutation of the same letters!
> >> >>
> >> >> Hint: it's the oldest OS still in development and production, and processes
> >> >> 95% or more of the world's financial transactions.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > IBM MVS/zOS is ~42 y.o. It is certainly not the oldest OS still in
> >> > development and production.
> >>
> >> MVS started in 1964. That's 52 years, not 42. Bad day to play hooky from
> >> math class?
> >
> > No, you had a bad day in history class.
> > MVS first shipped in 1974 as OS/VS2 Release 2.
>
> Oh, I see. You want to play word games.
>
It's not word games. I fully recognize that "OS/VS2 Release 2" *was* a MVS despite not being called so. But "OS/VS2 Release 1" is not a MVS, because it lacks a main feature of MVS - multiple virtual address spaces.
> OS/360 developed into MVS which developed into MVS/XA which developed into
> MVS/ESA which developed into OS/390 which developed into z/OS. It's the
> evolution of the same OS, it's all upward compatible. It's so upward
> compatible you can run object code from OS/360 on today's latest version of
> z/OS.
>
> Since you failed your computer history class you didn't know that MVS people
> use MVS as a generic name for _all_ these OSs unless we have a reason not
> to. Most of the time we just call it MVS. So does IBM.
>
> Bob, who started working on MVS in 1975 after MVS was already 11 years old.
Well, I can't compete with you here, back in 1975 I wasn't 11 years old myself.
But calling OS/360 versions before "VS2 Release 1" a MVS is plain wrong. That's like, bringing analogy from DEC world, to refer to RSX-11 as VMS.
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2016-05-02 22:51 Could you write a BSD like os in ADA? endlessboomcapitalism
2016-05-03 7:47 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2016-05-03 14:29 ` Olivier Henley
2016-05-09 20:14 ` Randy Brukardt
2016-05-09 20:58 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2016-05-09 22:26 ` tmoran
2016-05-10 9:45 ` G.B.
2016-05-10 10:04 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2016-05-10 10:21 ` G.B.
2016-05-10 10:38 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2016-05-10 11:10 ` G.B.
2016-05-10 11:41 ` Xavier Petit
2016-05-10 11:54 ` G.B.
2016-05-10 12:18 ` Bob Butler
2016-05-10 15:10 ` Xavier Petit
2016-05-09 21:05 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2016-05-10 22:03 ` Randy Brukardt
2016-05-10 23:55 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2016-08-21 23:31 ` endlessboomcapitalism
2016-08-22 0:18 ` Andrew Shvets
2016-08-22 5:01 ` J-P. Rosen
2016-08-22 8:14 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2016-08-22 9:49 ` Bob Broderbund
2016-08-22 23:50 ` John Smith
2016-08-23 0:04 ` Shark8
2016-08-23 8:36 ` Bob Broderbund
2016-08-23 8:43 ` Bob Broderbund
2016-08-23 9:47 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2016-08-23 13:11 ` already5chosen
2016-08-24 4:12 ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2016-08-24 7:26 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2016-08-24 9:25 ` already5chosen
2016-08-24 12:05 ` Vincent
2016-08-24 15:10 ` Bob Broderbund
2016-08-25 0:20 ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2016-08-25 16:30 ` Niklas Holsti
2016-08-28 1:06 ` VMS and C/Ada, was: " Simon Clubley
2016-08-28 7:05 ` Simon Wright
2017-03-14 10:59 ` gérard Calliet
2017-03-14 14:11 ` Simon Clubley
2017-03-14 15:15 ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2017-03-14 17:07 ` gérard Calliet
2017-03-14 18:36 ` Simon Clubley
2017-03-14 23:12 ` gérard Calliet
2016-08-24 17:40 ` Qun-Ying
2016-08-24 18:25 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2016-08-28 1:20 ` Simon Clubley
2016-08-28 8:10 ` Bob Broderbund
2016-08-28 8:36 ` Simon Clubley
2016-08-28 8:55 ` Bob Broderbund
2016-08-28 9:31 ` Simon Clubley
2016-08-28 9:44 ` Could you write a BSD like os in Ada? Bob Broderbund
2016-08-24 9:15 ` Could you write a BSD like os in ADA? already5chosen
2016-08-24 15:11 ` Bob Broderbund
2016-08-24 13:00 ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2016-08-24 15:00 ` Bob Broderbund
2016-08-28 1:29 ` [OT] VSI and VMS, was: " Simon Clubley
2016-08-28 8:12 ` Bob Broderbund
2016-08-28 8:43 ` Simon Clubley
2016-08-28 9:00 ` Bob Broderbund
2016-08-28 1:46 ` [OT] " Simon Clubley
2016-08-28 8:20 ` Bob Broderbund
2016-08-28 9:11 ` Simon Clubley
2016-08-23 12:51 ` already5chosen
2016-08-24 0:50 ` Shark8
2016-08-24 11:03 ` Maciej Sobczak
2016-08-24 15:15 ` Bob Broderbund
2016-08-24 15:37 ` already5chosen
2016-08-24 15:53 ` Bob Broderbund
2016-08-24 16:37 ` already5chosen [this message]
2016-08-22 11:38 ` J-P. Rosen
2016-08-22 12:10 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2016-08-22 13:23 ` J-P. Rosen
2016-08-22 23:14 ` rieachus
2016-05-09 23:28 ` Xavier Petit
2016-05-10 15:58 ` Istvan Nagy
2016-05-12 22:18 ` phil.clayton
2016-05-14 0:57 ` Simon Clubley
2016-05-14 11:33 ` AdaMagica
2016-05-16 17:37 ` Norman Worth
2016-08-03 15:31 ` Serge Robyns
2016-08-06 23:12 ` Luke A. Guest
2016-08-25 0:00 ` rieachus
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