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From: Thomas.Kendelbacher@erno.de (Thomas Kendelbacher)
Subject: Re: Garbage Collection in Ada
Date: 1996/10/17
Date: 1996-10-17T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <54524g$6bh@mailsrv2.erno.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 325EC3BA.5B54@thomsoft.com


In article <dewar.845247229@merv>, dewar@merv.cs.nyu.edu (Robert Dewar) writes:
>Lars says
>
>"Cultural bias or even prejudice is the most likely reason IMHO. Not
>technical reasons. On and off the same discussion comes up in the C++
>community. Those that control C++ and those that control Ada simply
>don't want GC :-("
>
>That's nonsense I think. [...]

No, it isn't. In the aerospace industry (probably the most faithful
of Ada's followers that are around) it's the decisive factor.

With so many technical managers and senior engineers who went into
management 10-15 years ago ... I won't say much more here. It just makes
for a good amount of technical conservatism: In those days, the common
belief in this community was that GC is a Bad Thing. Period.

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1996-10-08  0:00 Once again, Ada absent from DoD SBIR solicitation Gregory Aharonian
1996-10-08  0:00 ` Gandalf
1996-10-09  0:00 ` Bill Nielsen
1996-10-09  0:00   ` Stanley R. Allen
1996-10-09  0:00     ` C++ Standardization (was: Once again, Ada absent from DoD SBIR solicitation) David Shochat
1996-10-10  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-10  0:00         ` David Shochat
1996-10-20  0:00           ` Richard Riehle
1996-10-20  0:00             ` nasser
1996-10-21  0:00               ` Shayne Flint
1996-10-21  0:00                 ` Robert A Duff
1996-10-21  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-22  0:00                   ` Ken Garlington
1996-10-22  0:00                   ` Shayne Flint
1996-10-22  0:00                     ` Robert A Duff
1996-10-22  0:00               ` Rush Kester
1996-10-11  0:00         ` Ed Falis
1996-10-11  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-12  0:00             ` Kevin D. Heatwole
1996-10-12  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-13  0:00                 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-13  0:00             ` Ed Falis
1996-10-11  0:00       ` Dave Wood
1996-10-11  0:00         ` Dave Wood
1996-10-17  0:00         ` Thomas Kendelbacher [this message]
1996-10-10  0:00     ` Once again, Ada absent from DoD SBIR solicitation Mitch Gart
1996-10-10  0:00       ` Java vs Ada 95 (Was Re: Once again, Ada absent from DoD SBIR solicitation) Brian Rogoff
1996-10-10  0:00         ` Dave
1996-10-11  0:00           ` Tucker Taft
1996-10-14  0:00             ` Brian Rogoff
1996-10-15  0:00               ` Mitch Gart
1996-10-15  0:00                 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-15  0:00                   ` Mark A Biggar
1996-10-16  0:00                 ` Brian Rogoff
1996-10-28  0:00                 ` Kenneth Almquist
1996-10-29  0:00                   ` Invoking parental methods (was: Java vs Ada 95) Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-31  0:00                     ` Kenneth Almquist
1996-10-31  0:00                       ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-11-05  0:00                         ` Mitch Gart
1996-11-05  0:00                           ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-11-09  0:00                             ` Joel VanLaven
1996-11-05  0:00                           ` Tucker Taft
1996-11-05  0:00                             ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-11-06  0:00                               ` Robert A Duff
1996-11-06  0:00                                 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-11-06  0:00                             ` Mitch Gart
1996-11-06  0:00                             ` Robert I. Eachus
1996-11-07  0:00                               ` David Wheeler
1996-11-08  0:00                             ` Jon S Anthony
1996-11-08  0:00                             ` Robert I. Eachus
1996-10-15  0:00               ` Java vs Ada 95 (Was Re: Once again, Ada absent from DoD SBIR solicitation) Mike Stark
1996-10-15  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-16  0:00                   ` Mike Stark
1996-10-17  0:00                     ` Robert A Duff
1996-10-17  0:00                 ` Why no Propagates? Matthew Heaney
1996-10-18  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-18  0:00                   ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-10-18  0:00                     ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-18  0:00                   ` Robert A Duff
1996-10-15  0:00               ` Java vs Ada 95 (Was Re: Once again, Ada absent from DoD SBIR solicitation) Robert A Duff
1996-10-15  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-15  0:00                 ` Portability of Arithmetic (was: Java vs Ada 95) Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-16  0:00                   ` Robert A Duff
1996-10-16  0:00                     ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-17  0:00                       ` Robert A Duff
1996-10-17  0:00                         ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-18  0:00                           ` Robert A Duff
1996-10-17  0:00                         ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-18  0:00                           ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-10-18  0:00                             ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-18  0:00                               ` Brian R. Hanson
1996-10-19  0:00                                 ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-19  0:00                                   ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-22  0:00                                     ` Once again, Ada absent from DoD SBIR solicitation Dale Stanbrough
1996-10-27  0:00                                       ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-21  0:00                                   ` Portability of Arithmetic (was: Java vs Ada 95) Norman H. Cohen
1996-10-21  0:00                                     ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-21  0:00                               ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-10-21  0:00                                 ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-22  0:00                                   ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-23  0:00                                     ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-23  0:00                                       ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-23  0:00                                   ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-10-21  0:00                               ` Lance Kibblewhite
1996-10-18  0:00                           ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-18  0:00                             ` Robert A Duff
1996-10-17  0:00                     ` Stephen Leake
1996-10-17  0:00                       ` Robert A Duff
1996-10-17  0:00                         ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-18  0:00                           ` Robert A Duff
1996-10-17  0:00                         ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-17  0:00                 ` Java vs Ada 95 (Was Re: Once again, Ada absent from DoD SBIR solicitation) Alan Brain
1996-10-17  0:00                   ` Robert A Duff
1996-10-17  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-18  0:00                   ` Keith Thompson
1996-10-20  0:00                     ` Alan Brain
1996-10-24  0:00                 ` Robert I. Eachus
1996-10-16  0:00             ` Brian Rogoff
1996-10-16  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-17  0:00                 ` Robert A Duff
1996-10-17  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-22  0:00                 ` Van Snyder
1996-11-25  0:00                   ` Java vs Ada vs Inferno, floating point arithmetic Anssi Porttikivi
1996-10-16  0:00             ` Java vs Ada 95 (Was Re: Once again, Ada absent from DoD SBIR solicitation) Jon S Anthony
1996-10-16  0:00             ` Brian Rogoff
1996-10-11  0:00           ` Stephen Leake
1996-10-11  0:00             ` Dave
1996-10-11  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-12  0:00                 ` Dave
1996-10-12  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-14  0:00                   ` Keith Thompson
1996-10-11  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-12  0:00             ` davedave
1996-10-12  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-13  0:00               ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-18  0:00           ` Why no Propagates? Michel Gauthier
1996-10-22  0:00             ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-10-23  0:00           ` Michel Gauthier
1996-10-11  0:00         ` Java vs Ada 95 (Was Re: Once again, Ada absent from DoD SBIR solicitation) Mitch Gart
1996-10-11  0:00       ` Jon S Anthony
1996-10-11  0:00       ` Jon S Anthony
1996-10-12  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-14  0:00           ` Brian R. Hanson
1996-10-14  0:00           ` Mitch Gart
1996-10-14  0:00         ` Keith Thompson
1996-10-15  0:00           ` Dale Stanbrough
1996-10-15  0:00             ` Brian R. Hanson
1996-10-20  0:00           ` nasser
1996-10-12  0:00       ` davedave
1996-10-12  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-16  0:00           ` Jon S Anthony
1996-10-16  0:00           ` Jon S Anthony
1996-10-14  0:00       ` Jon S Anthony
1996-10-14  0:00       ` Brian Rogoff
1996-10-14  0:00       ` Jon S Anthony
1996-10-14  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-15  0:00           ` Robert A Duff
1996-10-15  0:00             ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-16  0:00               ` Lars Farm
1996-10-16  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-17  0:00           ` Why no Free? Matthew Heaney
1996-10-18  0:00             ` John Herro
1996-10-19  0:00               ` John Herro
1996-10-18  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-18  0:00             ` Robert A Duff
1996-10-14  0:00       ` Java vs Ada 95 (Was Re: Once again, Ada absent from DoD SBIR solicitation) Jon S Anthony
1996-10-14  0:00       ` Jon S Anthony
1996-10-15  0:00       ` Robert I. Eachus
1996-10-15  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-15  0:00       ` Brian Rogoff
1996-10-15  0:00       ` Robert I. Eachus
1996-10-16  0:00       ` Jon S Anthony
1996-10-16  0:00       ` Jon S Anthony
1996-10-16  0:00       ` Jon S Anthony
1996-10-18  0:00         ` Keith Thompson
1996-10-16  0:00       ` Jon S Anthony
1996-10-17  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-17  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-16  0:00       ` Samuel T. Harris
1996-10-16  0:00       ` Jon S Anthony
1996-10-18  0:00       ` Jon S Anthony
1996-10-18  0:00       ` Jon S Anthony
1996-10-18  0:00       ` Jon S Anthony
1996-10-29  0:00       ` Kenneth Almquist
1996-10-29  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-31  0:00           ` Kenneth Almquist
1996-10-29  0:00       ` Jon S Anthony
1996-10-29  0:00       ` Robert I. Eachus
1996-10-30  0:00       ` Stephen Leake
1996-10-31  0:00         ` Lars Farm
1996-10-31  0:00       ` Kenneth Almquist
1996-10-31  0:00       ` Jon S Anthony
1996-11-01  0:00       ` Robert I. Eachus
1996-11-01  0:00         ` Robert A Duff
     [not found]           ` <55gkch$gg6@fozzie.sun3.iaf.nl>
1996-11-03  0:00             ` Robert A Duff
1996-11-03  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-04  0:00                 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-11-04  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-05  0:00                 ` Fast locking (Was Re: Java vs Ada 95) Geert Bosch
1996-11-06  0:00                   ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-11-06  0:00                     ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-06  0:00                     ` Geert Bosch
1996-11-07  0:00                       ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-11-07  0:00                         ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-11  0:00                           ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-11-08  0:00                         ` Geert Bosch
1996-11-02  0:00         ` Java vs Ada 95 (Was Re: Once again, Ada absent from DoD SBIR solicitation) Robert Dewar
1996-11-04  0:00         ` Robert I. Eachus
1996-11-05  0:00           ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-11-14  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-16  0:00             ` Geert Bosch
1996-11-17  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-17  0:00                 ` Robert A Duff
1996-11-18  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-19  0:00                     ` Robert A Duff
1996-11-18  0:00                 ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-11-18  0:00                 ` Geert Bosch
1996-11-22  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-16  0:00             ` Robert A Duff
1996-11-16  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-17  0:00                 ` Unbounded strings (Was: Java vs Ada 95 (Was Re: Once again, Ada absent from DoD SBIR solicitation)) Robert A Duff
1996-11-18  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-19  0:00                     ` Joel VanLaven
1996-11-23  0:00                       ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-19  0:00                     ` Robert A Duff
1996-11-23  0:00                       ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-24  0:00                         ` Robert A Duff
1996-11-25  0:00                         ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-11-27  0:00                           ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-21  0:00                   ` Robert I. Eachus
1996-11-24  0:00                     ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-24  0:00                       ` Fergus Henderson
1996-11-24  0:00                         ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-25  0:00                       ` Kevin D. Heatwole
1996-11-25  0:00                         ` Robert A Duff
1996-11-26  0:00                           ` Kevin D. Heatwole
1996-11-26  0:00                             ` Robert A Duff
1996-11-26  0:00                               ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-11-27  0:00                               ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-27  0:00                               ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-11-29  0:00                                 ` Robert A Duff
1996-11-29  0:00                                 ` Fergus Henderson
1996-11-26  0:00                         ` Geert Bosch
1996-11-26  0:00                           ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-25  0:00                   ` Robert I. Eachus
1996-11-20  0:00                 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-11-24  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-06  0:00         ` Java vs Ada 95 (Was Re: Once again, Ada absent from DoD SBIR solicitation) Robert I. Eachus
1996-10-10  0:00     ` Once again, Ada absent from DoD SBIR solicitation Mike Stark
1996-10-10  0:00       ` Stanley R. Allen
1996-10-11  0:00         ` Mitch Gart
1996-10-11  0:00           ` Ken Garlington
1996-10-11  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-14  0:00             ` Mitch Gart
1996-10-14  0:00               ` Ken Garlington
1996-10-14  0:00           ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-10-14  0:00             ` Bevin R. Brett
1996-10-11  0:00     ` Ada and the DoD HLA (was: Once again, Ada absent from DoD SBIR solicitation) John Cosby
1996-10-13  0:00     ` Java vs Ada 95 (Was " Hannes Haug
1996-11-03  0:00     ` Hannes Haug
1996-11-06  0:00     ` Fast locking (Was Re: Java vs Ada 95) Hannes Haug
1996-11-06  0:00     ` Hannes Haug
1996-10-11  0:00   ` Once again, Ada absent from DoD SBIR solicitation Matthew M. Lih
1996-10-18  0:00     ` Rush Kester
1996-10-21  0:00   ` C++ Standardization (was: Once again, Ada absent from DoD SBIR solicitation) David Emery
1996-10-10  0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-10-11  0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-10-22  0:00 ` Tarjei Jensen
1996-10-22  0:00   ` C++ Standardization (was: Once again, Ian Ward
1996-11-01  0:00 ` Java vs Ada 95 (Was Re: Once again, Ada absent from DoD SBIR solicitation) Jon S Anthony
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1996-10-13  0:00 Garbage Collection in Ada Jonas Nygren
1996-10-13  0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-13  0:00 ` Lars Farm
1996-10-13  0:00   ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-13  0:00   ` Robert Dewar
     [not found]     ` <19961014115513529729@dialup105-2-16.swipnet.se>
1996-10-16  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-16  0:00         ` Lars Farm
1996-10-16  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-16  0:00             ` Hans-Juergen Boehm
1996-10-17  0:00               ` Robert A Duff
1996-10-17  0:00                 ` Hans-Juergen Boehm
1996-10-17  0:00                 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-17  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-17  0:00                 ` Hans-Juergen Boehm
1996-10-17  0:00             ` Lars Farm
1996-10-23  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-16  0:00         ` Hans-Juergen Boehm
1996-10-16  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-16  0:00             ` Hans-Juergen Boehm
1996-10-17  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-17  0:00                 ` Hans-Juergen Boehm
1996-10-17  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-14  0:00   ` John Howard
1996-10-15  0:00     ` Lars Farm
1996-10-15  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-15  0:00         ` Lars Farm
1996-10-15  0:00         ` Hans-Juergen Boehm
1996-10-17  0:00         ` Thomas Kendelbacher
1996-10-17  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-23  0:00         ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-10-23  0:00           ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-15  0:00       ` Robert A Duff
1996-10-14  0:00   ` Robert A Duff
1996-10-14  0:00     ` Lars Farm
1996-10-15  0:00       ` Robert A Duff
1996-10-16  0:00         ` Lars Farm
1996-10-16  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-17  0:00             ` Robert A Duff
1996-10-19  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-19  0:00                 ` Lars Farm
1996-10-20  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-20  0:00                     ` Robert A Duff
1996-10-20  0:00                       ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-21  0:00                     ` Lars Farm
1996-10-21  0:00                       ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-21  0:00                         ` Lars Farm
1996-10-21  0:00                     ` Geert Bosch
1996-10-21  0:00                       ` Hans-Juergen Boehm
1996-10-23  0:00                     ` Fergus Henderson
1996-10-24  0:00                     ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-10-20  0:00                 ` Robert A Duff
1996-10-20  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-21  0:00                     ` Hans-Juergen Boehm
1996-10-21  0:00                       ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-19  0:00               ` Richard Kenner
1996-10-15  0:00     ` Hans-Juergen Boehm
1996-10-15  0:00   ` Keith Thompson
1996-10-14  0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-10-15  0:00   ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-15  0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1996-10-15  0:00   ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-16  0:00   ` whiting_ms@corning.com (Matt Whiting)
1996-10-16  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-17  0:00   ` John Howard
1996-10-17  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-18  0:00       ` Lars Farm
1996-10-19  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-20  0:00           ` Lars Farm
1996-10-21  0:00             ` Nicolay Belofastow
1996-10-21  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-21  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-22  0:00               ` Lars Farm
1996-10-20  0:00         ` Robert A Duff
1996-10-20  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-22  0:00         ` Mitch Gart
1996-10-23  0:00           ` Hans-Juergen Boehm
1996-10-27  0:00             ` Richard Riehle
1996-10-23  0:00           ` Fergus Henderson
1996-10-29  0:00         ` Jon S Anthony
1996-10-30  0:00         ` Jon S Anthony
1996-10-30  0:00         ` James Rogers
1996-10-30  0:00         ` Brian Rogoff
1996-10-30  0:00         ` Jonas Nygren
1996-10-18  0:00       ` Lars Farm
1996-10-20  0:00         ` Robert A Duff
1996-10-18  0:00       ` Hans-Juergen Boehm
1996-10-15  0:00 ` Hannes Haug
1996-10-16  0:00 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen FOU.TD/DELAB
1996-10-16  0:00   ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-16  0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-10-17  0:00   ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-16  0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-10-16  0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-10-16  0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-10-17  0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1996-10-17  0:00   ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-17  0:00     ` Richard Kenner
1996-10-17  0:00 ` Rick Hudson
1996-10-17  0:00 ` Hans-Juergen Boehm
1996-10-18  0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-10-23  0:00   ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-18  0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-10-18  0:00   ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-18  0:00 ` Rick Hudson
1996-10-21  0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-10-21  0:00 ` Laurent Pautet
1996-10-22  0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-10-22  0:00 ` Tapani Rundgren
1996-10-23  0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-10-24  0:00   ` Mitch Gart
1996-10-24  0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1996-10-24  0:00 ` Hans-Juergen Boehm
1996-10-25  0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-10-28  0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1996-10-29  0:00 ` Hans-Juergen Boehm
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1996-11-02  0:00 Jon S Anthony
     [not found] <01bbc6a3$4cf03480$829d6482@joy.ericsson.se>
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