From: mfeldman@seas.gwu.edu (Michael Feldman)
Subject: Re: Ada on the Mac (was: AppletMagic stuff)
Date: 1996/10/09
Date: 1996-10-09T00:00:00+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <53gjb4$4bm@felix.seas.gwu.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 1996Oct8.191754.1@eisner
In article <1996Oct8.191754.1@eisner>,
Larry Kilgallen <kilgallen@eisner.decus.org> wrote:
>Perhaps that interest is largely for in-house use. I cannot name
>a single commercial Macintosh product which is PPC-only. I am sure
>there are some, but the fact that I cannot name one indicates to me
>that they are not plentiful.
Try Netscape Navigator Gold 3.0. PPC only.
>Whether one can offer a PPC-only product to customers at some point
>in time depends strongly on the nature of the product. A special-purpose
>item of interest only to "power users" might make it, but for any
>case where one looks to bulk purchases for multiple users, one must
>take care of the 68K machines which were handed down the food chain
>to the least favored users.
I agree.
>As Jim Hopper has pointed out, this has nothing to do with the choice
>of development environment. Most 68K commercial products are probably
>built on PPC.
I can;t imagine serious developers not using up-to-the-minute machines
as development platforms.
>(For those who might not be aware, the way most of the Macintosh
>products work is to ship both 68K and PPC code bundled into the
>same box and sometimes into the same file.)
Yes, this is what is called a "fat binary".
We're starting to beat a dead horse here, Larry. We're in violent
agreement that the 68k ought to be supported. My guess is that we
will eventually see a GNAT-Mac that's hosted under MachTen/PPC,
with code generators for both platforms.
What is holding it back is that the _current_ 68k support from Tenon
does not permit linking standalone apps. We've said several times here
that Tenon is moving out in the direction of seeing MachTen as a _Mac_
development system, not just as a UN*X that happens to run on a Mac.
Indeed, the GNAT-Mac project has helped them understand the potential.
But they cannot do everything at once, so they understandably focused
on the PPC side first.
>Larry Kilgallen
Mike Feldman
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Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
1996-09-27 0:00 Ada to byte-code compiler works as advertised Mike Stark
1996-09-28 0:00 ` Ray Blaak
1996-09-28 0:00 ` Mike Stark
1996-09-30 0:00 ` Vince Del Vecchio
1996-10-03 0:00 ` New version of AppletMagic (was Re: Ada to byte-code compiler ...) Vince Del Vecchio
1996-10-04 0:00 ` Michael Feldman
1996-10-05 0:00 ` Tucker Taft
1996-10-06 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1996-10-06 0:00 ` Ada on the Mac (was: AppletMagic stuff) Michael Feldman
1996-10-07 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-07 0:00 ` Michael Feldman
1996-10-07 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-09 0:00 ` Michael Feldman
1996-10-08 0:00 ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-10-09 0:00 ` Michael Feldman
1996-10-08 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-08 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-09 0:00 ` Michael Feldman [this message]
1996-10-09 0:00 ` jim hopper
1996-10-08 0:00 ` Hosting Ada on Mac (Was: Ada on the Mac) Laurent Gasser
1996-10-09 0:00 ` Michael Feldman
1996-10-08 0:00 ` Ada and Mac (Was: New version of AppletMagic) Stan Shebs
1996-10-08 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-10 0:00 ` jim hopper
1996-10-08 0:00 ` Laurent Gasser
1996-10-08 0:00 ` jim hopper
1996-10-08 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-09 0:00 ` Michael Feldman
1996-10-09 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1996-10-11 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-11 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1996-10-10 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-09 0:00 ` Laurent Gasser
1996-10-09 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-15 0:00 ` Tucker Taft
1996-10-10 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-10-10 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-11 0:00 ` Michael Feldman
1996-10-14 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-10-16 0:00 ` Michael Feldman
1996-10-17 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-17 0:00 ` jim hopper
1996-10-17 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-18 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-21 0:00 ` Michael Feldman
1996-10-21 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-22 0:00 ` Michael Feldman
1996-10-23 0:00 ` Steve Wall
1996-10-22 0:00 ` Tom Halliley
1996-10-23 0:00 ` Anita Holmgren
1996-10-24 0:00 ` Tom Halliley
1996-10-23 0:00 ` Jim Easterbrook
1996-10-17 0:00 ` jim hopper
1996-10-21 0:00 ` Michael Feldman
1996-10-17 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-10-21 0:00 ` Michael Feldman
1996-10-08 0:00 ` New version of AppletMagic (was Re: Ada to byte-code compiler Dr Paul Gorman
1996-10-09 0:00 ` Ada on the Mac (was: AppletMagic stuff) Stan Shebs
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