From: mfeldman@seas.gwu.edu (Michael Feldman)
Subject: Re: Ada on the Mac (was: AppletMagic stuff)
Date: 1996/10/09
Date: 1996-10-09T00:00:00+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <53ghak$r1m@felix.seas.gwu.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 53ci2v$fef$1@goanna.cs.rmit.edu.au
In article <53ci2v$fef$1@goanna.cs.rmit.edu.au>,
Richard A. O'Keefe <ok@goanna.cs.rmit.edu.au> wrote:
>Ahem. Apple will sell you something called MAE (Macintosh Application
>Environment). What is it? It's a complete System 7.1, with some 7.5 bits,
>running on SPARC/UNIX and HPPA/HPUX systems. (The opposite of MachTen.)
>According to the documentation I have, it does this by translating
>>>68k<< code to SPARC or HPPA native code on the fly. The document
>makes no mention of translartion PPC instructions to anything else.
Either your documentation is really out of date, or MAE is a dead
product. I'm not very familiar with it, but if it's being kept current,
it's an alternative for those who happen to have a Sun or HP box lying
around.:-)
>This suggests that a rather nice development environment might be
>to use a MAE-emulated 68k as the host for UNIX work...
Well, recent Macs make pretty decent development machines, at prices
much lower than Sun or HP boxes. I've been working on the GNAT-Mac stuff
using a 7500 (100 MHZ PPC, PCI bus) that cost me about $2k (plus about $800.
for a nice monitor).
I started out with 16mb RAM, but - because Apple's pre-7.5.5 virtual
memory manager was - for GNAT development - too slow, I added $500. worth of
RAM which brought me up to 64mb. At current RAM prices, buying lots of it
is irresistible.
Apple has really improved VM in 7.5.5. Further, Tenon has been developing
a native UN*X file system that really runs like blazes, at the cost of
setting up a separate file system partition a la OS/2 or Linux.
Mike Feldman
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Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
1996-09-27 0:00 Ada to byte-code compiler works as advertised Mike Stark
1996-09-28 0:00 ` Ray Blaak
1996-09-28 0:00 ` Mike Stark
1996-09-30 0:00 ` Vince Del Vecchio
1996-10-03 0:00 ` New version of AppletMagic (was Re: Ada to byte-code compiler ...) Vince Del Vecchio
1996-10-04 0:00 ` Michael Feldman
1996-10-05 0:00 ` Tucker Taft
1996-10-06 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1996-10-06 0:00 ` Ada on the Mac (was: AppletMagic stuff) Michael Feldman
1996-10-07 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-07 0:00 ` Michael Feldman
1996-10-07 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-09 0:00 ` Michael Feldman
1996-10-08 0:00 ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-10-09 0:00 ` Michael Feldman [this message]
1996-10-08 0:00 ` Hosting Ada on Mac (Was: Ada on the Mac) Laurent Gasser
1996-10-09 0:00 ` Michael Feldman
1996-10-08 0:00 ` Ada on the Mac (was: AppletMagic stuff) Robert Dewar
1996-10-08 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-09 0:00 ` Michael Feldman
1996-10-09 0:00 ` jim hopper
1996-10-08 0:00 ` Ada and Mac (Was: New version of AppletMagic) Laurent Gasser
1996-10-08 0:00 ` jim hopper
1996-10-08 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-09 0:00 ` Michael Feldman
1996-10-09 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1996-10-11 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-11 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1996-10-10 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-09 0:00 ` Laurent Gasser
1996-10-09 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-15 0:00 ` Tucker Taft
1996-10-08 0:00 ` Stan Shebs
1996-10-08 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-10 0:00 ` jim hopper
1996-10-10 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-10-10 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-11 0:00 ` Michael Feldman
1996-10-14 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-10-16 0:00 ` Michael Feldman
1996-10-17 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-17 0:00 ` jim hopper
1996-10-17 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-18 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-21 0:00 ` Michael Feldman
1996-10-21 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-22 0:00 ` Michael Feldman
1996-10-23 0:00 ` Steve Wall
1996-10-22 0:00 ` Tom Halliley
1996-10-23 0:00 ` Anita Holmgren
1996-10-24 0:00 ` Tom Halliley
1996-10-23 0:00 ` Jim Easterbrook
1996-10-17 0:00 ` jim hopper
1996-10-21 0:00 ` Michael Feldman
1996-10-17 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-10-21 0:00 ` Michael Feldman
1996-10-08 0:00 ` New version of AppletMagic (was Re: Ada to byte-code compiler Dr Paul Gorman
1996-10-09 0:00 ` Ada on the Mac (was: AppletMagic stuff) Stan Shebs
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