From: mfeldman@seas.gwu.edu (Michael Feldman)
Subject: Re: Ada on the Mac (was: AppletMagic stuff)
Date: 1996/10/09
Date: 1996-10-09T00:00:00+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <53gg6p$o8r@felix.seas.gwu.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 1996Oct7.143041.1@eisner
In article <1996Oct7.143041.1@eisner>,
Larry Kilgallen <kilgallen@eisner.decus.org> wrote:
>Having just heard about the selection of MachTen due to it having
>a command-line style of operation, it just occured to me that
>some folk who might be in a position to make a difference were
>not aware of that IDE option. Perhaps Metrowerks makes the same
>offer, for all I know.
I didn;t say we chose MT because it had a command line. I said we chose it
because it has a stable and supported GCC infrastructure. If one had
existed for MPW, we might have gone that way. As it happens, I'm glad
we selected MachTen, because it does provide a nice way to use Unix
capabilities without throwing away your MacOS apps.
What I said about command lines is that the Mac does not provide a
standard one, so just getting started on a GNAT port requires _some_
add-on, purchased environment that supports a GCC.
This is as though Windows 95 did not provide a command line, or if
Solaris _required_ you to use X, with no direct way to get to a shell.
>Absolutely ! I can affect the mix of 68K vs. PPC machines
>in the development environment, but there is no way to change
>that at customer sites. To paraphrase some politician,
>"Dollars for Development, not one cent for runtime royalties."
We are in violent agreement here.
>And they will have a much easier time getting Apple support.
I don;t know if they get any tangible support from Apple, but they and
Apple are certainly "plugged in" to each other.
>Apple may not be the richest company but they have the ear of
>a lot of software developers.
True. Apple is far from dirt-poor, in any case. Many folks have
written Apple's obituary many times (mostly folks with an axe to
grind) but Apple soldiers on and sells millions of computers a year.
That ain;t hay. As we in the Ada community know, market share is
not the only valid measure of success.:-)
>Larry Kilgallen
Mike Feldman
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Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
1996-09-27 0:00 Ada to byte-code compiler works as advertised Mike Stark
1996-09-28 0:00 ` Ray Blaak
1996-09-28 0:00 ` Mike Stark
1996-09-30 0:00 ` Vince Del Vecchio
1996-10-03 0:00 ` New version of AppletMagic (was Re: Ada to byte-code compiler ...) Vince Del Vecchio
1996-10-04 0:00 ` Michael Feldman
1996-10-05 0:00 ` Tucker Taft
1996-10-06 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1996-10-06 0:00 ` Ada on the Mac (was: AppletMagic stuff) Michael Feldman
1996-10-07 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-07 0:00 ` Michael Feldman
1996-10-07 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-09 0:00 ` Michael Feldman [this message]
1996-10-08 0:00 ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-10-09 0:00 ` Michael Feldman
1996-10-08 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-08 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-09 0:00 ` Michael Feldman
1996-10-09 0:00 ` jim hopper
1996-10-08 0:00 ` Hosting Ada on Mac (Was: Ada on the Mac) Laurent Gasser
1996-10-09 0:00 ` Michael Feldman
1996-10-08 0:00 ` Ada and Mac (Was: New version of AppletMagic) Laurent Gasser
1996-10-08 0:00 ` jim hopper
1996-10-08 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-09 0:00 ` Michael Feldman
1996-10-09 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1996-10-11 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-11 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1996-10-10 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-09 0:00 ` Laurent Gasser
1996-10-09 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-15 0:00 ` Tucker Taft
1996-10-08 0:00 ` Stan Shebs
1996-10-08 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-10 0:00 ` jim hopper
1996-10-10 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-10-10 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-11 0:00 ` Michael Feldman
1996-10-14 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-10-16 0:00 ` Michael Feldman
1996-10-17 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-17 0:00 ` jim hopper
1996-10-17 0:00 ` jim hopper
1996-10-17 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-18 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-21 0:00 ` Michael Feldman
1996-10-21 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-22 0:00 ` Michael Feldman
1996-10-23 0:00 ` Steve Wall
1996-10-22 0:00 ` Tom Halliley
1996-10-23 0:00 ` Anita Holmgren
1996-10-24 0:00 ` Tom Halliley
1996-10-23 0:00 ` Jim Easterbrook
1996-10-21 0:00 ` Michael Feldman
1996-10-17 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-10-21 0:00 ` Michael Feldman
1996-10-08 0:00 ` New version of AppletMagic (was Re: Ada to byte-code compiler Dr Paul Gorman
1996-10-09 0:00 ` Ada on the Mac (was: AppletMagic stuff) Stan Shebs
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