From: mfeldman@seas.gwu.edu (Michael Feldman)
Subject: Re: Ada on the Mac (was: AppletMagic stuff)
Date: 1996/10/07
Date: 1996-10-07T00:00:00+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <53b87u$bm9@felix.seas.gwu.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 1996Oct7.100737.1@eisner
In article <1996Oct7.100737.1@eisner>,
Larry Kilgallen <kilgallen@eisner.decus.org> wrote:
>Symantec has expressed a policy of welcoming other compilers to their
>IDE, freely publishing the interface specifications. They are being
>beaten up about their Pascal non-support so they seem an unlikely
>candidate to do a compiler, but adapting to their IDE might be
>possible for someone else.
Which compiler would you adapt to their UI?
GNAT? That would require yet another GCC port.
AdaMagic? Evidently Intermetrics, which had a contract to develop a
Mac port, found this to be infeasible or not cost-effective, or
whatever, so they dropped the Mac port (with AJPO's permission).
A whole 'nother Ada 95 compiler? Who's going to come up with the
20-25 person years usually estimated for such a thing?
>Symantec may have a reputation
>below that of Metrowerks in the Macintosh developer community,
>but for many their IDE ranks far above MPW (which is alleged
>to be still quite command-line oriented).
The problem is not selecting the IDE but doing the compiler.
>
>
(referring to MachTen producing standalone Mac apps)
>But my understanding is the current version still requires MachTen
>for executing on a 68K machine. That may work for education (the
>basis on which this thread has been proceeding), but is not viable
>for most commercial applications.
I agree with you. If Tenon comes to see this as a business advantage,
maybe they will do it. IMHO, the way to go is not to worry too much
about the 68k as a _host_, but rather to focus on a PPC-hosted
cross-compiler capable of producing fat (68k+PPC) binaries.
As my note yesterday pointed out, MachTen has been marketed historically
as a UN*X server, not so much as a development system. This is changing,
and GNAT-Mac is a big part of the change. If it "works" - if MachTen
becomes a decently popular development system - then its creators will
have the incentives to make the enhancements we'd all like to see.
>
>> Currently, the only big thing missing from the GNAT-Mac distribution
>> is the ability to link _tasking_ programs as standalone apps. This is
>> changing fast; we expect to have a standalone tasking runtime ready
>> for release in the very near future, quite possibly with 3.07.
>
>Keep us posted.
Don't worry - we'll shout it from the rooftops.:-)
>
>Larry Kilgallen
Mike Feldman
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Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
1996-09-27 0:00 Ada to byte-code compiler works as advertised Mike Stark
1996-09-28 0:00 ` Ray Blaak
1996-09-28 0:00 ` Mike Stark
1996-09-30 0:00 ` Vince Del Vecchio
1996-10-03 0:00 ` New version of AppletMagic (was Re: Ada to byte-code compiler ...) Vince Del Vecchio
1996-10-04 0:00 ` Michael Feldman
1996-10-05 0:00 ` Tucker Taft
1996-10-06 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1996-10-06 0:00 ` Ada on the Mac (was: AppletMagic stuff) Michael Feldman
1996-10-07 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-07 0:00 ` Michael Feldman [this message]
1996-10-07 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-09 0:00 ` Michael Feldman
1996-10-08 0:00 ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-10-09 0:00 ` Michael Feldman
1996-10-08 0:00 ` Hosting Ada on Mac (Was: Ada on the Mac) Laurent Gasser
1996-10-09 0:00 ` Michael Feldman
1996-10-08 0:00 ` Ada on the Mac (was: AppletMagic stuff) Robert Dewar
1996-10-08 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-09 0:00 ` Michael Feldman
1996-10-09 0:00 ` jim hopper
1996-10-08 0:00 ` Ada and Mac (Was: New version of AppletMagic) Laurent Gasser
1996-10-08 0:00 ` jim hopper
1996-10-08 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-09 0:00 ` Michael Feldman
1996-10-09 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1996-10-11 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-11 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1996-10-10 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-09 0:00 ` Laurent Gasser
1996-10-09 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-15 0:00 ` Tucker Taft
1996-10-08 0:00 ` Stan Shebs
1996-10-08 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-10 0:00 ` jim hopper
1996-10-10 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-10-10 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-11 0:00 ` Michael Feldman
1996-10-14 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-10-16 0:00 ` Michael Feldman
1996-10-17 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-17 0:00 ` jim hopper
1996-10-17 0:00 ` jim hopper
1996-10-17 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-18 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-21 0:00 ` Michael Feldman
1996-10-21 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-22 0:00 ` Michael Feldman
1996-10-23 0:00 ` Steve Wall
1996-10-22 0:00 ` Tom Halliley
1996-10-23 0:00 ` Anita Holmgren
1996-10-24 0:00 ` Tom Halliley
1996-10-23 0:00 ` Jim Easterbrook
1996-10-21 0:00 ` Michael Feldman
1996-10-17 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-10-21 0:00 ` Michael Feldman
1996-10-08 0:00 ` New version of AppletMagic (was Re: Ada to byte-code compiler Dr Paul Gorman
1996-10-09 0:00 ` Ada on the Mac (was: AppletMagic stuff) Stan Shebs
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