From: Adam Beneschan <adam@irvine.com>
Subject: Re: anonymous access type
Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 10:35:35 -0800 (PST)
Date: 2009-03-05T10:35:35-08:00 [thread overview]
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On Mar 5, 9:50 am, Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
<yannick_duch...@yahoo.fr> wrote:
> On 5 mar, 16:05, Robert A Duff <bobd...@shell01.TheWorld.com> wrote:
>
> > Do you find it strange that we don't have:
>
> > X : constant Integer := 123;
> > Y : variable Integer := 456; -- Not Ada!
>
> > ?
> > - Bob
>
> Well done, you've got a clever point indeed.
>
> Perhaps the reason why I did not miss is beceause it does not belong
> to the same side. When I see in/out on parameters, I see it from the
> external user point of view (e.g. I'm looking at it as a user who
> would like make a reference to it), while when I see your exemple, I
> see it from the inner point of view (e.g. I'm inside a procedure/
> function).
>
> You know what ? I oftenly miss something else : beside of the
> formal_parameter_selector_name [ARM2005 6.4/5], I would enjoy in/out
> hints at the call statement, just to make invokation instances more
> clear when a procedure can modifiy its parameters. It it not always
> easy to state it in the procedure's name or in the parameter's name.
>
> But perhaps I'm a bit mad (may be the "explicit" concept is becoming a
> kind of hard drug)
I think Ada 79 or some earlier proposal had that. For named parameter
associations, instead of the => syntax we've gotten used to:
Proc (Param => Expression);
the syntax was
Proc (Param := Expression);
for IN parameters;
Proc (Param =: Variable);
for OUT parameters, and
Proc (Param :=: Variable);
for IN OUT parameters. At least that's what I recall from way back
when. I suppose the language could still allow
Proc (Param <=> Variable)
for IN OUT, but of course <= has another use now so we couldn't use
that...
And I think that in Ada 79, this was only possible for named
associations, not positional ones.
I don't think your idea is a bad one, though, to allow (but not
require) IN|OUT|IN OUT keywords in front of actual parameters (named
or positional). The implementation effort for compiler maintainers
would be small, I believe.
-- Adam
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Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-03-03 12:25 anonymous access type Maciej Sobczak
2009-03-03 12:40 ` christoph.grein
2009-03-03 12:44 ` christoph.grein
2009-03-03 13:15 ` Maciej Sobczak
2009-03-03 13:43 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2009-03-05 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
2009-03-03 21:03 ` sjw
2009-03-03 22:35 ` Adam Beneschan
2009-03-04 5:47 ` christoph.grein
2009-03-04 16:01 ` Robert A Duff
2009-03-05 1:44 ` Randy Brukardt
2009-03-05 8:52 ` christoph.grein
2009-03-05 11:08 ` Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
2009-03-04 8:30 ` Maciej Sobczak
2009-03-04 23:54 ` Robert A Duff
2009-03-05 8:14 ` Ludovic Brenta
2009-03-05 16:27 ` Rob Norris
2009-03-05 17:51 ` Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
2009-03-09 11:40 ` Rob Norris
2009-03-05 20:25 ` sjw
2009-03-06 12:49 ` Stephen Leake
2009-03-05 8:38 ` Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
2009-03-05 15:05 ` Robert A Duff
2009-03-05 15:18 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-03-05 17:50 ` Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
2009-03-05 18:35 ` Adam Beneschan [this message]
2009-03-06 0:52 ` Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
2009-03-06 16:25 ` Adam Beneschan
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