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From: Shark8 <onewingedshark@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Anti-Ada FUD (rant)
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2013 23:21:19 -0700 (PDT)
Date: 2013-09-27T23:21:19-07:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <53272638-d56f-460e-a10c-045c96a88de5@googlegroups.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <q17449da41g1090d8f6fgjk530mqc4i6ng@4ax.com>

On Tuesday, September 24, 2013 5:18:33 PM UTC-6, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 23:38:32 -0700 (PDT), krfkeith wrote:
> >
> >I love the laughable claim that WinNT is poorly designed. While some of the userland has left some to be desired, the core of the NT systems is *very* competently designed. The NT team was lead by Dave Cutler, of DEC fame. 
> 
> 	The internals may be good -- though I could wish for even more of VMS
> to have been "ported"... Like (common) event flag clusters, IPC via
> mailboxes, and maybe even the entire QIO system...  Somehow the objects
> that WinNT+ uses for "wait" don't feel natural to me, and the divorced
> socket I/O system show a few warts (select only works on sockets, need a
> different API for files, etc.)
> 
> 	But the failure to provide a decent command shell scripting capability
> (a la DCL) saddled it. PowerShell finally makes an apologetic entry (Pity
> my main use is a glorified "find":
> get-childitem -path "xxx" -filter "*.ext" | select-string -pattern "yyy"
> )

You know, I've heard a lot of good stuff about VMS (and DEC's Ada compiler) -- kinda makes me wish I had first-hand experience with them. (And, obviously, the R-1000, that sounds like a *very* interesting setup to me... and I'm not convinced that having "the library" [and source, and objects {.o/.obj}] stored in a database isn't "the right way" to do things.)

  reply	other threads:[~2013-09-28  6:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-09-20 22:18 Anti-Ada FUD (rant) krfkeith
2013-09-20 22:47 ` Adam Beneschan
2013-09-20 23:32 ` John B. Matthews
2013-09-21 12:06 ` Georg Bauhaus
2013-09-22  0:47 ` gautier_niouzes
2013-09-22 21:24 ` Shark8
2013-09-23  4:43   ` Peter Brooks
2013-09-23  5:14     ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2013-09-23  6:05       ` Shark8
2013-09-23 23:19         ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2013-09-24  7:10           ` Bill Richards
2013-09-23  7:00       ` Bill Richards
2013-09-23  7:55         ` Bill Findlay
2013-09-23  8:31           ` Peter Brooks
2013-09-23  8:37           ` Bill Richards
2013-09-23  8:52             ` Bill Findlay
2013-09-23  8:59         ` Georg Bauhaus
2013-09-23 11:31           ` Bill Richards
2013-09-29  1:04           ` Shmuel Metz
2013-09-24  1:40         ` Paul Rubin
2013-09-24  7:05           ` Bill Richards
2013-09-24  7:34             ` Bill Findlay
2013-09-24  7:49               ` Bill Richards
2013-09-24 10:47                 ` Georg Bauhaus
2013-09-24 10:38             ` Georg Bauhaus
2013-09-24 15:39               ` Paul Rubin
2013-09-28 23:28         ` Shmuel Metz
2013-09-23  5:55     ` Shark8
2013-09-23  6:12       ` Peter Brooks
2013-09-23  7:34         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-09-23  8:36           ` Peter Brooks
2013-09-23  9:36             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-09-23  9:39               ` Bill Findlay
2013-09-23 12:16                 ` Peter Brooks
2013-09-23 12:54                   ` Bill Findlay
2013-09-23 14:32                     ` Peter Brooks
2013-09-23 22:06                       ` Peter C. Chapin
2013-09-29  1:00           ` Shmuel Metz
2013-09-23  7:26       ` Peter Brooks
2013-09-24  6:03         ` Shark8
2013-09-24  7:51           ` Peter Brooks
2013-09-26 20:58             ` erlo
2013-09-24  6:38 ` krfkeith
2013-09-24 23:18   ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2013-09-28  6:21     ` Shark8 [this message]
2013-09-28 14:40       ` Per Sandberg
2013-09-28 21:54       ` Dennis Lee Bieber
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