* Programming language popularity ranking @ 2005-02-06 19:41 Manuel G. R. 2005-02-07 20:36 ` Martin Krischik ` (2 more replies) 0 siblings, 3 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Manuel G. R. @ 2005-02-06 19:41 UTC (permalink / raw) Please, check this language popularity ranking: http://www.tiobe.com/tiobe_index/tekst.htm Of course, I know this kind of rankings are not vey credible. Ada is in position 19. I don't know if it is close to reality, but I suspect about those five red down arrows. Do you see that shrinking in Ada popularity, or should we disregard the ranking? Are there other rankings to compare? Regards. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: Programming language popularity ranking 2005-02-06 19:41 Programming language popularity ranking Manuel G. R. @ 2005-02-07 20:36 ` Martin Krischik 2005-02-08 0:14 ` Jeffrey Carter 2005-02-08 12:13 ` Jeff C 2 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Martin Krischik @ 2005-02-07 20:36 UTC (permalink / raw) Manuel G. R. wrote: > Please, check this language popularity ranking: > http://www.tiobe.com/tiobe_index/tekst.htm > > Of course, I know this kind of rankings are not vey credible. Well this one counts "Ada programming" on google - fairly easy to cheat. As soon as I found out about that ranking I made shure that all Programming:Ada pages on wikibooks have that text now ;-). And there are 97 right now (http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Category:Ada_programming_language). For you spanish wikibook it is of corse more difficult to add the english text "Ada programming". > Ada is in position 19. I don't know if it is close to reality, but I > suspect about those five red down arrows. Do you see that shrinking in > Ada popularity, or should we disregard the ranking? We lost 5 positions - over a year - and that is indeed bad. When I did a "Ada tutorial" research for http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Programming:Ada:Tutorials I noticed that a lot of tutorials have become off line which might account for the change. > Are there other rankings to compare? Would be interesting to know. Martin -- mailto://krischik@users.sourceforge.net http://www.ada.krischik.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: Programming language popularity ranking 2005-02-06 19:41 Programming language popularity ranking Manuel G. R. 2005-02-07 20:36 ` Martin Krischik @ 2005-02-08 0:14 ` Jeffrey Carter 2005-02-08 13:04 ` Martin Krischik 2005-02-08 12:13 ` Jeff C 2 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Jeffrey Carter @ 2005-02-08 0:14 UTC (permalink / raw) Manuel G. R. wrote: > Please, check this language popularity ranking: > http://www.tiobe.com/tiobe_index/tekst.htm What can we make of this site's objectivity? "February Headline: Fourth increase in a row for both Java and C#". Java shows a decrease of 4.22%, and both Java and C#'s positions have dropped. -- Jeff Carter "Blessed is just about anyone with a vested interest in the status quo." Monty Python's Life of Brian 73 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: Programming language popularity ranking 2005-02-08 0:14 ` Jeffrey Carter @ 2005-02-08 13:04 ` Martin Krischik 2005-02-07 19:58 ` Manuel G. R. 2005-02-09 10:15 ` Gautier 0 siblings, 2 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Martin Krischik @ 2005-02-08 13:04 UTC (permalink / raw) Jeffrey Carter wrote: > Manuel G. R. wrote: > >> Please, check this language popularity ranking: >> http://www.tiobe.com/tiobe_index/tekst.htm > > What can we make of this site's objectivity? > > "February Headline: Fourth increase in a row for both Java and C#". > Java shows a decrease of 4.22%, and both Java and C#'s positions have > dropped. "We offer out-of-the-box solutions for the programming languages C, C++, C# and Java." What do you expect. But since they have a very primitive algorithm I decided to add "Ada programming" to my signature. Martin -- mailto://krischik@users.sourceforge.net Ada programming at: http://ada.krischik.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: Programming language popularity ranking 2005-02-08 13:04 ` Martin Krischik @ 2005-02-07 19:58 ` Manuel G. R. 2005-02-09 7:48 ` Martin Krischik 2005-02-09 10:15 ` Gautier 1 sibling, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Manuel G. R. @ 2005-02-07 19:58 UTC (permalink / raw) Martin Krischik wrote: > Jeffrey Carter wrote: > >>What can we make of this site's objectivity? >> >>"February Headline: Fourth increase in a row for both Java and C#". > > >>Java shows a decrease of 4.22%, and both Java and C#'s positions have >>dropped. > > > "We offer out-of-the-box solutions for the programming languages C, C++, C# > and Java." > > What do you expect. But since they have a very primitive algorithm I decided > to add "Ada programming" to my signature. Me too. Let's look at the graphic. What did they do in Mar-04? A change in the algorithm, I guess, but the former percentages look more confident. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: Programming language popularity ranking 2005-02-07 19:58 ` Manuel G. R. @ 2005-02-09 7:48 ` Martin Krischik 2005-02-08 19:48 ` Manuel G. R. 0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Martin Krischik @ 2005-02-09 7:48 UTC (permalink / raw) Manuel G. R. wrote: > Martin Krischik wrote: >> Jeffrey Carter wrote: >> >>>What can we make of this site's objectivity? >>> >>>"February Headline: Fourth increase in a row for both Java and C#". >> >> >>>Java shows a decrease of 4.22%, and both Java and C#'s positions have >>>dropped. >> >> >> "We offer out-of-the-box solutions for the programming languages C, C++, >> C# and Java." Look closely: "C, C++, C# and Java." not "Java, C, C++ and C#." Maybe they changed the algorithm to fit there buisiness aim. >> What do you expect. But since they have a very primitive algorithm I >> decided to add "Ada programming" to my signature. > > Me too. > > Let's look at the graphic. What did they do in Mar-04? A change in the > algorithm, I guess, but the former percentages look more confident. Prehaps is't that strange "-tv". I removes any site with a hit on "tv". +"Ada programming" 52.000 +"Ada programming" -tv 46,800 Impact 10% +"ABAP programming" 43,400 +"ABAP programming" -tv 42,300 Impact 2.5% +"C programming" 1,580,000 +"C programming" -tv 1,480,000 Impact 6,3% Yet another mytery solved. Remeber the green and red arrows are calculated over the year not the month! Never trust a statistic you have not falseified yourself. Of corse this has been a google search only. To see the hole picture one need to make searches on MSN, Yahoo and google groups. But I did make little test on +tv - there are many legitimate sites having both programming and tv. The real problem is that we did such a check and now how cheaty the stats are - but the seminformed do not. I for one will drop them a mail. BTW: Ada has such a hard hit because of the use of Ada in tv satelites and tv satelite receivers. Pages on that subjecte are not counted. And I will point that out to them - if it helps I don't know. Martin -- mailto://krischik@users.sourceforge.net Ada programming at: http://ada.krischik.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: Programming language popularity ranking 2005-02-09 7:48 ` Martin Krischik @ 2005-02-08 19:48 ` Manuel G. R. 2005-02-10 7:57 ` Martin Krischik 0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Manuel G. R. @ 2005-02-08 19:48 UTC (permalink / raw) Martin Krischik wrote: > Manuel G. R. wrote: > >>Let's look at the graphic. What did they do in Mar-04? A change in the >>algorithm, I guess, but the former percentages look more confident. > > > Prehaps is't that strange "-tv". I removes any site with a hit on "tv". > Aah, I didn't understand why they were adding -tv. Why remove tv and not any other word not apparently related with programming? I think they chose whatever favour most to C. > I for one will drop them a mail. BTW: Ada has such a hard hit because of the > use of Ada in tv satelites and tv satelite receivers. Pages on that > subjecte are not counted. And I will point that out to them - if it helps I > don't know. Good luck, but will they seek another magic word just because of Ada? -- Ada programming tutorial: http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Programming:Ada Tutorial de programaci�n en Ada: http://es.wikibooks.org/wiki/Programaci%C3%B3n_en_Ada ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: Programming language popularity ranking 2005-02-08 19:48 ` Manuel G. R. @ 2005-02-10 7:57 ` Martin Krischik 0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Martin Krischik @ 2005-02-10 7:57 UTC (permalink / raw) Manuel G. R. wrote: > Martin Krischik wrote: >> Manuel G. R. wrote: > > >>>Let's look at the graphic. What did they do in Mar-04? A change in the >>>algorithm, I guess, but the former percentages look more confident. >> Prehaps is't that strange "-tv". I removes any site with a hit on "tv". > Aah, I didn't understand why they were adding -tv. Why remove tv and not > any other word not apparently related with programming? It is probably an anti SPAM measurement. You see there is this country which could lucky with "tv" as there country shortcut. They don't need that many web sites so they sell www.XXX.tv to everyone who is willing to pay. > I think they > chose whatever favour most to C. C is also a system programming language - so C is hit as well. The real gainer is of corse ABAP. Martin -- mailto://krischik@users.sourceforge.net Ada programming at: http://ada.krischik.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: Programming language popularity ranking 2005-02-08 13:04 ` Martin Krischik 2005-02-07 19:58 ` Manuel G. R. @ 2005-02-09 10:15 ` Gautier 2005-02-09 14:59 ` Martin Krischik 1 sibling, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Gautier @ 2005-02-09 10:15 UTC (permalink / raw) Martin Krischik: > What do you expect. But since they have a very primitive algorithm I decided > to add "Ada programming" to my signature. Not bad! First copycat below :-) Another trick is to put "Ada programming" with background colour on web pages. With customized gnathtml.pl's you even produce tons of such pages... ______________________________________________________________ Gautier -- http://www.mysunrise.ch/users/gdm/index.htm Ada programming -- http://www.mysunrise.ch/users/gdm/gsoft.htm NB: For a direct answer, e-mail address on the Web site! ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: Programming language popularity ranking 2005-02-09 10:15 ` Gautier @ 2005-02-09 14:59 ` Martin Krischik 0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Martin Krischik @ 2005-02-09 14:59 UTC (permalink / raw) Gautier wrote: > Martin Krischik: > >> What do you expect. But since they have a very primitive algorithm I >> decided to add "Ada programming" to my signature. > > Not bad! First copycat below :-) > Another trick is to put "Ada programming" with background > colour on web pages. Beware: some search engines have learned the foreground = background trick! > With customized gnathtml.pl's you even > produce tons of such pages... http://adacl.sourceforge.net/html/main.htm :-) Martin -- mailto://krischik@users.sourceforge.net Ada programming at: http://ada.krischik.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: Programming language popularity ranking 2005-02-06 19:41 Programming language popularity ranking Manuel G. R. 2005-02-07 20:36 ` Martin Krischik 2005-02-08 0:14 ` Jeffrey Carter @ 2005-02-08 12:13 ` Jeff C 2 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Jeff C @ 2005-02-08 12:13 UTC (permalink / raw) "Manuel G. R." <mgrojo@ya.com> wrote in message news:cu8gdf$fgm$1@news.ya.com... > Please, check this language popularity ranking: > http://www.tiobe.com/tiobe_index/tekst.htm > > Of course, I know this kind of rankings are not vey credible. > > Ada is in position 19. I don't know if it is close to reality, but I > suspect about those five red down arrows. Do you see that shrinking in Ada > popularity, or should we disregard the ranking? > > Are there other rankings to compare? > > Regards. I dunno but everyone grab an book ABAP according to the site. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
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