Re: long term viability of Ada

[nasser@apldbio.com]

In article <529n5f$k68@news.ccit.arizona.edu>, frank@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu 
says...
>
>In article <524sb9$t5g@lex.zippo.com> nasser@apldbio.com (Nasser)
>writes:
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>> I don't see this. Have you looked at the help wanted Ads in the Sunday
>> papers lately?
>> 
>> In the commercial sector in the US there is almost no one using Ada.
>
>This is one of Greg's favorite arguments.

> I question whether you can
>draw any valid conclusions on this subject by studying classified ads.
>

Really?  If you see 1000 ads asking for skill A, and 1 asking for skill B,
are you saying I can't draw any conclusion from this? when I said the
Sunday classified Ads, I did not mean literally the Sunday classified Ads, I
meant it as a metaphor to mean popular ads, stuff you see on newsgroups, 
technical magazines, jobs magazines, and the Sunday papers, those sorts of 
things.

>According to one study conducted in a "typical" large and small
>American city (San Francisco and Salt Lake City), 75-85% of the
>employers did not hire *any* employees through want ads during an
>*entire year*.
>

So? the 75-80% would apply to both the C/C++ crowds as well to the Ada ones.
75% of those who apply to the Ada job through the classified ads do not 
get considered, and also 75% of those who apply to the C/C++ jobs through 
the classified ads do not get the job. so we are back to square one.

>I personally don't recall ever getting a job through classified ads,
>including one that involved Ada programming. How many programmers do
>you know who got their job via a classified ad? How did you get your
>job?
>

My first ever job was with EDS , yes, go Perot :) , and that was through 
a Sunday classified Ad. I spend 4 great years there. My second one was also 
through a Sunday classified ad, that was with Digital Equip Corp (DEC). I 
spend a fun 5 years there, my third job was from a classified Ad with 
Qualcomm Inc. , another fine company. So, Are you happy now ? or do you want 
me to tell you the rest of my life story :)

Ok, now its your turn, tell us how you got your jobs !

Any way, what exactly are we arguing about here? becuase I love to argue,
but first I need to know what the argument is about (it sort of makes
it easier ).

thanks,
Nasser
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Nasser Abbasi. Perkin Elmer - Applied BioSystem division. 
Development of DNA and Protein analysis software. C/C++/UNIX.
email:  nasser@apldbio.com   MSEE, MSCS, MSCE, Fide chess master (FM).

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