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From: "G.B." <rm-dash-bau-haus@dash.futureapps.de>
Subject: Re: strange behaviour of utf-8 files
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2013 16:51:50 +0100
Date: 2013-11-18T16:51:50+01:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <528a3796$0$6635$9b4e6d93@newsspool2.arcor-online.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cqqsvt47bw75.1p0m0ibjkwyrz$.dlg@40tude.net>

On 18.11.13 16:25, Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote:
> Compare:
>
> 123 is a literal of Integer, mod 341, Unsigned_16, ... types

Compare

   type My_Int is range 1 .. 10
     with Size => 16;

to

   type My_Int is range 1 .. 10
     with Size => 32;


Now

   type My_Char is range 'A' .. 'Z'
     with size => 31;

to

   type My_Char is range 'A' .. 'Z'
     with size => 15;


And

   type My_Float is digits 6 range 0.0 .. 1_000.0
     with Mode => Round_To_Nearest_Even;

These are representation issues. They direct the compiler
to choose (a) a number of bits and (b) a set of operations.
"+" will be affected by 'Size, though not at the level of
abstract operations.

I guess there is a view that says rounding is a type? So what:

An encoding aspect would just be a means that allows programmers
to say what they mean. It may not be as useful as -gnatW*, it may even
be confusing, but it may finally kick the * of compiler makers and
project leads, and make them sort out this encoding nonsense once
and forever. Without rhetoric. And *then* they can say that
specifying aspects is fundamentally wrong.

After all, this is about interpreting a bit pattern at compile
time, and supplying information about the bits explicitly should
help. It should help fixing C's underlying char* issues, too.

Even when using 7bit ASCII, there is *no* information in the
source that explicitly states what is meant in a given ASCII
String literal. So, saying that ASCII works is just accidentally
right. A good argument in a C camp.




  reply	other threads:[~2013-11-18 15:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-11-16 13:12 strange behaviour of utf-8 files Stoik
2013-11-16 13:34 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-11-16 15:09   ` Stoik
2013-11-16 15:55     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-11-17 13:32       ` Georg Bauhaus
2013-11-17 14:07         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-11-17 17:19           ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2013-11-17 18:07             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-11-17 19:05           ` Georg Bauhaus
2013-11-17 20:38             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-11-18  8:38               ` Georg Bauhaus
2013-11-18  9:01                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-11-18 10:06                   ` Georg Bauhaus
2013-11-18  8:44               ` Georg Bauhaus
2013-11-18 10:24                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-11-18 13:05                   ` G.B.
2013-11-18 15:25                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-11-18 15:51                       ` G.B. [this message]
2013-11-18 17:34                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-11-18  0:34           ` Stoik
2013-11-16 17:01     ` Georg Bauhaus
2013-11-17 10:38       ` Stoik
2013-11-16 15:12   ` Stoik
2013-11-16 15:57     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-11-17 11:12       ` Stoik
2013-11-22  1:03         ` Randy Brukardt
2013-11-22  3:02           ` Shark8
2013-11-22 11:54             ` Georg Bauhaus
2013-11-23  4:14             ` Randy Brukardt
2013-12-06  2:17               ` Georg Bauhaus
2013-11-16 20:06     ` Peter C. Chapin
2013-11-17 10:34       ` Stoik
2013-11-22  0:53       ` Randy Brukardt
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