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From: Georg Bauhaus <rm.dash-bauhaus@futureapps.de>
Subject: Re: The future of Spark . Spark 2014 : a wreckage
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 10:21:29 +0200
Date: 2013-07-10T10:21:28+02:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51dd1988$0$6579$9b4e6d93@newsspool3.arcor-online.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <grcdle1q7kkw$.m5t82cn92atl.dlg@40tude.net>

On 10.07.13 09:49, Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote:
> On Tue, 09 Jul 2013 18:51:36 -0400, Robert A Duff wrote:

>>> ...because logical implication (not P or Q) must be
>>> denoted as P => Q.
>>
>> It must be?
>
> Yes, if logical implication is indeed meant here, of which I am not sure.
>
>> In Eiffel, it is denoted by the "implies" keyword.
>> In Ada 2012, one writes "(if P then Q)", which is shorthand for
>> "(if P then Q else True)".
>
> But this is not an implication (Boolean operation). It is a rule based on
> implication. E.g. Modus ponens:
>
> P, P=>Q
> ------------
> Q
>
> So "implies" and "if-then" are correct, while P->Q looks wrong even when
> spelled correctly as P=>Q.
>
> If there should be a symbol, I think,
>
>     P |= Q  or P |- Q
>
> would be more appropriate.

Appropriate even though semantic and syntactic entailment resp.
are not usually considered part of the language governing P and Q?

Wouldn't we rather be writing computable expressions and
feed them to mechanical testing of satisfiability? (Which
means, right now, we have just formulae, but not any language
for speaking about arguments or about consistent sets.)

What's your plan?



  reply	other threads:[~2013-07-10  8:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-07-08 17:56 The future of Spark . Spark 2014 : a wreckage vincent.diemunsch
2013-07-08 19:24 ` Simon Wright
2013-07-08 20:59 ` Florian Weimer
2013-07-09  7:40   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-09  8:30     ` Georg Bauhaus
2013-07-09  8:58       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-09 10:27         ` G.B.
2013-07-09 11:13         ` G.B.
2013-07-09 15:14     ` Adam Beneschan
2013-07-09 22:51     ` Robert A Duff
2013-07-10  7:49       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-10  8:21         ` Georg Bauhaus [this message]
2013-07-08 21:32 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-09  7:28   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-09 11:29     ` Simon Wright
2013-07-09 12:22       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-09 20:37     ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-10 10:03       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-10 23:21         ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-11  7:44           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-11 22:28             ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-12  8:02               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-12 21:16                 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-14 10:19                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-14 15:57                     ` Georg Bauhaus
2013-07-16  0:16                       ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-17  1:30                         ` Shark8
2013-07-17 23:08                           ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-18  7:19                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-19  4:36                               ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-16  0:13                     ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-16  8:37                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-16 22:13                         ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-17  7:59                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-17 23:26                             ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-18  7:37                               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-19  4:32                                 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-19  7:16                                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-20  5:32                                     ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-20  9:06                                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-12  1:01           ` Slow? Ada?? Bill Findlay
2013-07-09  7:57   ` The future of Spark . Spark 2014 : a wreckage Stefan.Lucks
2013-07-09 20:46     ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-10  8:03       ` Stefan.Lucks
2013-07-10 12:46         ` Simon Wright
2013-07-10 23:10         ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-11 19:23           ` Stefan.Lucks
2013-07-12  0:21             ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-12  9:12               ` Stefan.Lucks
2013-07-12 20:47                 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-08-05  5:43                 ` Paul Rubin
2013-07-10 12:19   ` vincent.diemunsch
2013-07-10 16:02     ` Simon Wright
2013-07-11  0:36     ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-11  6:19       ` Simon Wright
2013-07-11 23:11         ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-11 10:10       ` vincent.diemunsch
2013-07-11 14:23         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-12  0:07           ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-12  0:00         ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-12  7:25           ` Simon Wright
2013-07-12 20:07             ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-12 14:23           ` Robert A Duff
2013-07-12 20:14             ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-11 23:50       ` Shark8
2013-07-08 23:18 ` Peter C. Chapin
2013-07-09  7:34   ` Stefan.Lucks
2013-07-09 15:21     ` Adam Beneschan
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