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From: seebs@solutions.solon.com (Peter Seebach)
Subject: Re: language wars (results 13 September) last posting
Date: 1996/09/13
Date: 1996-09-13T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51c6df$c23@solutions.solon.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 323993D5.41C6@lanl.gov


In article <323993D5.41C6@lanl.gov>,
William Clodius  <wclodius@lanl.gov> wrote:
>3.  No postings to the moderated newsgroups, which tend to attract more
>knowledgeable posters.

And we didn't get a submission, at least in clcm.  (Although I'd probably have
bounced it as a troll.)

Maybe it's about time for comp.lang.advocacy?

>4.  The disallowal of first languages implies, at least in the US,
>reduced votes for Basic, Pascal, C, and Fortran which may bias results
>in Ada's favor.

It also prevents people like me, who have no real memory of the order in which
we learned things, from answering.  It's also ill defined; does the fact that
I used to type "rogue" when I was about 9 years old mean Bourne shell was my
first language?

>5.  There is no way to weight the voter's experience with a variety of
>languages.

Certainly.  Would my failure to rank Ada be because it's not a language I
*would* like, or because GNAT doesn't support NetBSD/68k yet?

>6.  There is no way to weight the voter's degree of preference.

Or degree of bias.  I'm on XJ311.  Does this mean I'm biased towards C?  (Or
against it, for that matter.)

I mean, all we can really say is the only reason that TECO macros weren't the
winner is that no one has any respect for *REAL* programming any more.

-s
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  reply	other threads:[~1996-09-13  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1996-09-13  0:00 language wars (results 13 September) last posting Roy Gardiner
1996-09-13  0:00 ` William Clodius
1996-09-13  0:00   ` Peter Seebach [this message]
1996-09-21  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1996-09-21  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1996-09-16  0:00   ` Robert Fahey
1996-09-18  0:00 ` Andrew Gierth
1996-09-18  0:00 ` Luke Chao
1996-09-18  0:00 ` James Giles
1996-09-18  0:00 ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-09-18  0:00 ` James Giles
1996-09-19  0:00 ` Daniel J. Long
1996-09-21  0:00   ` Ken Pizzini
1996-09-24  0:00     ` Art Schwarz
1996-09-26  0:00       ` Ken Pizzini
1996-09-29  0:00         ` Paul Gilmartin
1996-09-26  0:00       ` Matthew D. Healy
1996-09-29  0:00         ` Randy MacDonald
1996-10-03  0:00           ` galina.kasminskaya
1996-10-03  0:00             ` Dave Tholen
1996-09-21  0:00   ` Ken Pizzini
1996-09-19  0:00 ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-09-19  0:00 ` Andrew Gierth
1996-09-20  0:00 ` John Girash
1996-09-20  0:00   ` John Girash
1996-09-20  0:00 ` Friday 13th, try it yourself (was Language Wars..) Clinton Pierce
1996-09-21  0:00   ` Russell Mosemann
1996-09-25  0:00     ` Ken Pizzini
1996-09-25  0:00       ` Results of my test: Re: Friday 13th, try it yourself Lee Crites
1996-09-25  0:00         ` William Clodius
1996-09-27  0:00         ` Dik T. Winter
     [not found]           ` <52qpqt$1b3l@ilx018.iil.intel.com>
1996-10-02  0:00             ` Dik T. Winter
1996-10-02  0:00             ` Ken Pizzini
1996-09-26  0:00       ` Dr John Stockton
1996-09-26  0:00         ` Lee Crites
1996-09-26  0:00           ` John Winters
1996-09-26  0:00           ` Daan Sandee
1996-09-26  0:00             ` Jeff Drummond
1996-09-30  0:00               ` Ray Dunn
1996-09-26  0:00           ` Adam Beneschan
1996-09-27  0:00             ` Glen Clark
1996-09-27  0:00           ` CHI Research, Inc. 
1996-09-27  0:00             ` Lee Crites
1996-09-28  0:00               ` John Winters
1996-09-30  0:00               ` Adam Beneschan
1996-10-01  0:00             ` Mike McCarty
1996-09-26  0:00         ` Dr John Stockton
     [not found]         ` <199609302101.JAA04610@kauri.vuw.ac.nz>
1996-09-30  0:00           ` Lee Crites
1996-09-25  0:00     ` Friday 13th, try it yourself (was Language Wars..) Barrie Walker
1996-09-26  0:00       ` Jim Shapiro
1996-09-21  0:00   ` Russell Mosemann
1996-09-23  0:00   ` Matthew D. Healy
1996-09-23  0:00     ` Dik T. Winter
1996-09-25  0:00     ` Paul Gilmartin
1996-09-22  0:00 ` Dr John Stockton
1996-09-23  0:00 ` Dr John Stockton
1996-09-23  0:00 ` Randy MacDonald
1996-09-23  0:00   ` Dik T. Winter
1996-09-25  0:00   ` John Harper
1996-09-25  0:00     ` jupiter
1996-09-24  0:00 ` language wars (results 13 September) last posting Andrew Gierth
1996-09-24  0:00   ` Art Schwarz
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