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From: amir@iae.nsk.su (Amir Yantimirov)
Subject: Re: Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery
Date: 24 Mar 2003 21:48:54 -0800
Date: 2003-03-25T05:48:55+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5115eb96.0303242148.57027600@posting.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: b5nhiq$29oaug$2@ID-77047.news.dfncis.de

"Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> wrote in message news:<b5nhiq$29oaug$2@ID-77047.news.dfncis.de>...
>Amir Yantimirov wrote:
>> Oops. Sorry. Anyway, the idea is type functionality may be extended
>> freely so it don't have to be specified in type declaration.

> If nothing specified then nothing can be checked at compile time. There are 
> languages like SmallTalk for this, they have their place, but of little 
> interest. Because the real challenge is: to check as much as possible, 
> giving up as little as we can.

Not that. I propose something alike this:

type TFoo = record ... end record;

procedure Bar ( Baz : in out TFoo);
  with TFoo:
    'First = 1;
    'Last = 32;
    [].Read = ReadBits;
    [].Write = WriteBits;
  end with;
begin
  Baz[40] := 0; -- compile error!

> > Fine. But what's the gain? I rarely needs any _polymorphic_ feature
> > for such types above "this type is distinct four-byte thing".
> 
> And what is lost? You need no class-wide objects? Declare them specific!
> 
> BTW, Boolean is an enumeration type, check google, and you'll find periodic 
> discussions in c.l.a concerning "extensionable" enumeration types:
> 
> type Four_State_Logical is new Boolean with (Uncertain, Contradictory);

Different levels of abstraction needs different solutions. So I argue
only that ALL types should be tagged.

Amir Yantimirov
http://www174.pair.com/yamir/programming/



  reply	other threads:[~2003-03-25  5:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-03-14 17:22 Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery Robert C. Leif
2003-03-14 17:57 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-03-14 18:16 ` chris.danx
2003-03-14 18:17 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-03-15 14:18   ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-03-16  1:06     ` Hyman Rosen
2003-03-18 10:37       ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-03-18 15:34         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-03-19 11:12           ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-03-20  8:42             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-03-20 14:27               ` Frank J. Lhota
2003-03-21  8:44                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-03-21 17:16                   ` Pascal Obry
2003-03-22  9:05                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-03-22 14:11                       ` Pascal Obry
2003-03-22 23:12                         ` AG
2003-03-23  9:01                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-03-23  8:51                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-03-24 16:52                           ` Hyman Rosen
2003-03-24 18:10                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-03-24 18:33                               ` Hyman Rosen
2003-03-25  5:04                                 ` Amir Yantimirov
2003-03-25 19:55                                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-03-25 20:22                                   ` Hyman Rosen
2003-03-26 13:02                                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-03-26 15:06                                       ` Hyman Rosen
2003-03-26 16:21                                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-03-26 17:00                                           ` Hyman Rosen
2003-03-26 18:21                                             ` Bill Findlay
2003-03-26 18:40                                               ` Hyman Rosen
2003-03-22 10:01                   ` Amir Yantimirov
2003-03-23  8:41                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-03-24  4:53                       ` Amir Yantimirov
2003-03-24 18:10                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-03-25  5:48                           ` Amir Yantimirov [this message]
2003-03-25 15:53                             ` Frank J. Lhota
2003-03-25 16:44                               ` Robert A Duff
2003-03-25 18:24                                 ` Frank J. Lhota
2003-03-25 20:06                                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-03-27 19:45                                     ` Frank J. Lhota
2003-03-27 21:25                                       ` Pascal Obry
2003-03-28 13:34                                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-04-01 14:38                                         ` Frank J. Lhota
2003-04-02  7:37                                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-03-26  7:48                                 ` Amir Yantimirov
2003-03-26 13:35                                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-03-26  7:32                               ` Amir Yantimirov
2003-03-20 23:28               ` Matthew Heaney
2003-03-21  8:49                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-03-21 21:07                   ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-03-22  9:04                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-03-22 10:05                       ` AG
2003-03-22 15:25                         ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-03-22 19:27                           ` AG
2003-03-22 21:45                             ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-03-22 22:28                               ` AG
2003-03-23 23:47                     ` Robert A Duff
2003-03-28 16:34                       ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-03-18 15:58         ` Hyman Rosen
2003-03-19 11:05           ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-03-23 11:31       ` Florian Weimer
2003-03-23 23:39         ` Hyman Rosen
2003-03-15 12:52 ` Florian Weimer
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