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From: Hyman Rosen <hyrosen@mail.com>
Subject: Re: Ada for a programming newb.
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 03:17:20 GMT
Date: 2003-09-19T03:17:20+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4zuab.5439$U6.3722@nwrdny03.gnilink.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m3brthk16a.fsf@niflheim.malonet>

Mark Lorenzen wrote:
> I very strongly disagree with this statement. Functional programming
> is the essence of programming and the absolutely most natural way of
> describing how to solve a problem.
> 
> You can learn the philosophy of functional programming and then be a
> good programmer in any language or you can learn an imperative
> language and be stuck in your "programming-by-side-effect" way of
> thinking.

What rubbish! "Programming-by-side-effect" has been the essence of
computing from the very beginning, from Turing machines to memory-
mapped video displays. FP is a completely alien concept, having no
intuitive correspondence to anything in the real world to make it
amenable to understanding.

When I go to the barber, the result is not a new copy of me with
shorter hair. It's the same old me witha side-effect applied.

By the way, the first and second prize winners of the 2003 ICFP
contest used C++. The Judges' Prize winners used C++ and Dylan.




  reply	other threads:[~2003-09-19  3:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-09-14 20:36 Ada for a programming newb Kyle Root
2003-09-14 21:15 ` Larry Kilgallen
2003-09-14 21:29 ` Ludovic Brenta
2003-09-15 14:46 ` Jarimatti Valkonen
2003-09-18 17:31 ` Isaac Gouy
2003-09-18 19:33   ` Luke A. Guest
2003-09-18 20:19     ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-09-18 20:30     ` chris
2003-09-19  1:38     ` Mark Lorenzen
2003-09-19  3:17       ` Hyman Rosen [this message]
2003-09-19 14:25         ` chris
2003-09-19 15:09           ` Hyman Rosen
2003-09-19 15:12             ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-09-19 15:13               ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-09-19 15:42           ` Preben Randhol
2003-09-19 18:00             ` Stephane Richard
2003-09-21  1:16               ` Hyman Rosen
2003-09-19 15:51         ` Frank J. Lhota
2003-09-22 12:00           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-09-22 12:04             ` chris
2003-09-22 12:33               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-09-22 12:28                 ` Stephane Richard
2003-09-22 19:37             ` Jeffrey Carter
2003-09-23  9:30               ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2003-09-23 17:49                 ` Jeffrey Carter
2003-09-24  9:53                   ` Preben Randhol
2003-09-19  1:44     ` Jeffrey Carter
2003-09-19 13:30       ` Isaac Gouy
2003-09-19  3:09     ` Isaac Gouy
2003-09-19 21:40       ` Luke A. Guest
2003-09-21 15:09         ` Isaac Gouy
2003-09-19 16:34   ` Chad R. Meiners
2003-09-19 23:57     ` Isaac Gouy
2003-09-20  7:20 ` Anders Wirzenius
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