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@ 2002-11-17 11:21 Jerry van Dijk
  2002-11-17 12:28 ` Adrian Knoth
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From: Jerry van Dijk @ 2002-11-17 11:21 UTC (permalink / raw)



A while back I made an experimental release of gnatgcc 3.3 for Windows 
available through www.mingw.org. Meanwhile there have been some further
improvements (bringing the number of AVCS failures down to 47). However
I did not see any bug reports, so I wonder if there is any interest in
newer releases...

gr.
Jerry.

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* Re: GCC 3.X Ada releases
  2002-11-17 11:21 GCC 3.X Ada releases Jerry van Dijk
@ 2002-11-17 12:28 ` Adrian Knoth
  2002-11-17 12:54 ` Victor Porton
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From: Adrian Knoth @ 2002-11-17 12:28 UTC (permalink / raw)


Jerry van Dijk <jvandyk@attglobal.net> wrote:

> I did not see any bug reports, so I wonder if there is any interest in
> newer releases...

Sure there is. It is worse to lack support of something, so someone could
think Ada is not a choice for him and use decreases.


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* Re: GCC 3.X Ada releases
  2002-11-17 11:21 GCC 3.X Ada releases Jerry van Dijk
  2002-11-17 12:28 ` Adrian Knoth
@ 2002-11-17 12:54 ` Victor Porton
  2002-11-17 14:47   ` Florian Weimer
  2002-11-17 13:09 ` Jeffrey Creem
  2002-11-18  7:50 ` Eric G. Miller
  3 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Victor Porton @ 2002-11-17 12:54 UTC (permalink / raw)


In article <u1y5k30hg.fsf@attglobal.net>,
	Jerry van Dijk <jvandyk@attglobal.net> writes:
> 
> A while back I made an experimental release of gnatgcc 3.3 for Windows 
> available through www.mingw.org. Meanwhile there have been some further
> improvements (bringing the number of AVCS failures down to 47). However
> I did not see any bug reports, so I wonder if there is any interest in
> newer releases...

About my type of interest (I think not only mine): currently the only reasons
which would cause me to  switch to a newer version of GNAT than 3.14p:

1. Bugs found in old releases.

2. Improved speed of programs and speed of compilation, decreased 
executable size.

3. Extensions in GNAT.* library.

4. Better tools and docs provided with the compiler.

5. New good pragmas etc.

It means that even having the possibility to download a never version  of
GNAT, I will do it only before releasing some Ada software, not in the 
meantime. So I have interest but not now.

Also we need some ASIS programs, where AFAIK gcc 3.x does yet not 
support ASIS.



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* Re: GCC 3.X Ada releases
  2002-11-17 11:21 GCC 3.X Ada releases Jerry van Dijk
  2002-11-17 12:28 ` Adrian Knoth
  2002-11-17 12:54 ` Victor Porton
@ 2002-11-17 13:09 ` Jeffrey Creem
  2002-11-18  7:50 ` Eric G. Miller
  3 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Jeffrey Creem @ 2002-11-17 13:09 UTC (permalink / raw)


I have been using the GNAT version from mingw.org...

Just have not hit any bugs yet. (Code I am working on with this is all
fairly straight forward stuff though
so I am not hitting any edge cases of the compiler yet)...

In any case, I am interested in new releases if for no other reason than to
stay current with
others working on the code on different platforms.


"Jerry van Dijk" <jvandyk@attglobal.net> wrote in message
news:u1y5k30hg.fsf@attglobal.net...
>
> A while back I made an experimental release of gnatgcc 3.3 for Windows
> available through www.mingw.org. Meanwhile there have been some further
> improvements (bringing the number of AVCS failures down to 47). However
> I did not see any bug reports, so I wonder if there is any interest in
> newer releases...
>
> gr.
> Jerry.
>
> --
> --  Jerry van Dijk   | email: jvandyk@attglobal.net
> --  Leiden, Holland  | web:   users.ncrvnet.nl/gmvdijk





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* Re: GCC 3.X Ada releases
  2002-11-17 12:54 ` Victor Porton
@ 2002-11-17 14:47   ` Florian Weimer
  2002-11-17 15:19     ` Preben Randhol
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From: Florian Weimer @ 2002-11-17 14:47 UTC (permalink / raw)


porton@ex-code.com (Victor Porton) writes:

> 2. Improved speed of programs and speed of compilation, decreased 
> executable size.

Using GCC 3 increases compilation time significantly.

> 5. New good pragmas etc.

Pragma Unreferenced is nice. :-)



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* Re: GCC 3.X Ada releases
  2002-11-17 14:47   ` Florian Weimer
@ 2002-11-17 15:19     ` Preben Randhol
  2002-11-17 16:15       ` chris.danx
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From: Preben Randhol @ 2002-11-17 15:19 UTC (permalink / raw)


Florian Weimer wrote:
> Using GCC 3 increases compilation time significantly.

But this is because the gcc-gnat is still in development right?
I mean there isn't a reason for gnat with gcc 3 being always slower than
gcc 2.8 ?

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* Re: GCC 3.X Ada releases
  2002-11-17 15:19     ` Preben Randhol
@ 2002-11-17 16:15       ` chris.danx
  2002-11-17 16:30         ` Preben Randhol
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From: chris.danx @ 2002-11-17 16:15 UTC (permalink / raw)


Preben Randhol wrote:

> But this is because the gcc-gnat is still in development right?
> I mean there isn't a reason for gnat with gcc 3 being always slower than
> gcc 2.8 ?


gcc itself is slower that way back then.  That could be having a knock 
on effect on gnat.


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* Re: GCC 3.X Ada releases
  2002-11-17 16:15       ` chris.danx
@ 2002-11-17 16:30         ` Preben Randhol
  2002-11-19  6:26           ` Simon Wright
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Preben Randhol @ 2002-11-17 16:30 UTC (permalink / raw)


chris.danx wrote:
> gcc itself is slower that way back then.  That could be having a knock 
> on effect on gnat.

OK. But I guess it is better at optimising?

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* Re: GCC 3.X Ada releases
  2002-11-17 11:21 GCC 3.X Ada releases Jerry van Dijk
                   ` (2 preceding siblings ...)
  2002-11-17 13:09 ` Jeffrey Creem
@ 2002-11-18  7:50 ` Eric G. Miller
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From: Eric G. Miller @ 2002-11-18  7:50 UTC (permalink / raw)


In <u1y5k30hg.fsf@attglobal.net>, Jerry van Dijk wrote:

> 
> A while back I made an experimental release of gnatgcc 3.3 for Windows 
> available through www.mingw.org. Meanwhile there have been some further
> improvements (bringing the number of AVCS failures down to 47). However
> I did not see any bug reports, so I wonder if there is any interest in
> newer releases...

I have used it a little recently.  Didn't hit any bugs (yet).  So, there's
interest...



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* Re: GCC 3.X Ada releases
  2002-11-17 16:30         ` Preben Randhol
@ 2002-11-19  6:26           ` Simon Wright
  2002-11-19  9:31             ` Preben Randhol
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From: Simon Wright @ 2002-11-19  6:26 UTC (permalink / raw)


Preben Randhol <randhol+news@pvv.org> writes:

> chris.danx wrote:
> > gcc itself is slower that way back then.  That could be having a knock 
> > on effect on gnat.
> 
> OK. But I guess it is better at optimising?

I got the impression from snooping round the mailing list archives
that the slowdown was related to introducing new support (possibly for
GC within the compiler) rather more then super optimisation.



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* Re: GCC 3.X Ada releases
  2002-11-19  6:26           ` Simon Wright
@ 2002-11-19  9:31             ` Preben Randhol
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From: Preben Randhol @ 2002-11-19  9:31 UTC (permalink / raw)


Simon Wright wrote:
> I got the impression from snooping round the mailing list archives
> that the slowdown was related to introducing new support (possibly for
> GC within the compiler) rather more then super optimisation.

I see. But still I expect Gcc 3 to be an improvement over 2.8.1 in the
code generation part :-)

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