From: ok@goanna.cs.rmit.edu.au (Richard A. O'Keefe)
Subject: Re: Uninitialized "out" parameters
Date: 1996/07/25
Date: 1996-07-25T00:00:00+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4t7cnd$9t1@goanna.cs.rmit.edu.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 4t6f9d$12p0@news.ccit.arizona.edu
frank@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu (Frank Manning) writes:
:In article <4t4r0s$8te@goanna.cs.rmit.edu.au> ok@goanna.cs.rmit.edu.au
:(Richard A. O'Keefe) writes:
:> Roughly the third most frightening thing I have seen in a computer
:> manual is the advice
:> "If your program is halting with range-checking errors,
:> and you don't want to address those problems immediately,
:> you can always omit the {$R+} compiler directive
:> [thus suppressing the range checks] for the time being."
:> to be found in the Turbo Pascal 5.0 User Guide on p207.
:Not to be argumentative, but I'm curious as to why you think this is so
:bad?
Because once such a check would have failed, the program is operating
in never-never land, and any *other* problems you may chose to address
first may, in fact, be artefacts of the nonsense you are guaranteed to
be getting.
If your program is halting with range-checking errors,
the only kind of problem that it is useful to diagnose is a problem
that occurs *before* that halt. Which means that you want to switch
additional checks on so the program halts *earlier*, if anything.
This is especially true in a programming language running on old DOS,
where a range check failure that is not caught may mean that your
program has just scribbled all over the operating system or the debugger...
--
Fifty years of programming language research, and we end up with C++ ???
Richard A. O'Keefe; http://www.cs.rmit.edu.au/~ok; RMIT Comp.Sci.
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1996-07-18 0:00 Uninitialized "out" parameters Paul Whittington
1996-07-18 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-07-19 0:00 ` Peter Amey
1996-07-20 0:00 ` Fergus Henderson
1996-07-20 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-07-21 0:00 ` Fergus Henderson
1996-07-21 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-07-23 0:00 ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-07-23 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-07-24 0:00 ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-07-24 0:00 ` Theodore E. Dennison
1996-07-24 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-07-25 0:00 ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-07-25 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-07-25 0:00 ` Frank Manning
1996-07-25 0:00 ` Richard A. O'Keefe [this message]
1996-07-26 0:00 ` Frank Manning
1996-07-23 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-07-24 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-07-24 0:00 ` Fergus Henderson
1996-07-24 0:00 ` Fergus Henderson
1996-07-25 0:00 ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-07-25 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-07-23 0:00 ` Fergus Henderson
1996-07-23 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-07-24 0:00 ` Fergus Henderson
1996-07-24 0:00 ` Fergus Henderson
1996-07-18 0:00 ` Adam Beneschan
1996-07-18 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-07-19 0:00 ` Pascal Obry
1996-07-19 0:00 ` Peter Hermann
1996-07-19 0:00 ` Dale Stanbrough
1996-07-19 0:00 ` Adam Beneschan
1996-07-19 0:00 ` James A. Squire
1996-07-19 0:00 ` Adam Beneschan
1996-07-20 0:00 ` Michael Feldman
1996-07-21 0:00 ` Fergus Henderson
1996-07-21 0:00 ` Michael Feldman
1996-07-21 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-07-22 0:00 ` Fergus Henderson
1996-07-23 0:00 ` Michael Feldman
1996-07-23 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-07-25 0:00 ` Fergus Henderson
1996-07-24 0:00 ` Fergus Henderson
1996-07-24 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-07-25 0:00 ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-07-19 0:00 ` Samuel Tardieu
1996-07-19 0:00 ` John Herro
1996-07-19 0:00 ` Tucker Taft
1996-07-23 0:00 ` Peter Hermann
1996-07-23 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-07-19 0:00 ` Peter Amey
1996-07-19 0:00 ` Michel Gauthier
1996-07-21 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-07-21 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-07-22 0:00 ` Is 'out' different from 'in out' (Was: Uninitialized "out" parameters) Michel Gauthier
1996-07-22 0:00 ` Tucker Taft
1996-07-22 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-07-22 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-07-23 0:00 ` Michel Gauthier
1996-07-23 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-07-24 0:00 ` Pascal Obry
1996-07-25 0:00 ` Tucker Taft
1996-07-23 0:00 ` Uninitialized "out" parameters John Herro
1996-07-23 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-07-24 0:00 ` Uninitialized variables, Java example Arra Avakian
1996-07-25 0:00 ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-07-25 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-07-25 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-07-23 0:00 ` Uninitialized "out" parameters Robert Dewar
1996-07-24 0:00 ` Peter Hermann
1996-07-26 0:00 ` Stephen J Bevan
1996-07-26 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-07-24 0:00 ` Uninitialized variables, Java example Felaco
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2016-04-06 21:01 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2016-04-07 7:10 ` ahlan
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2016-04-07 7:27 ` Randy Brukardt
2016-04-06 11:37 ` AdaMagica
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