From: z007400b@bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us (Ralph Silverman)
Subject: Re: software engineering and the notion of authorship
Date: 1996/07/15
Date: 1996-07-15T00:00:00+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4sdhbg$r7e@nntp.seflin.lib.fl.us> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 4rjhv6$ilu@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU
Fergus Henderson (fjh@mundook.cs.mu.OZ.AU) wrote:
: In comp.lang.ada, dewar@cs.nyu.edu (Robert Dewar) writes:
: >To me this "ego-centered" style of programming is deadly. It promotes a
: >situation where in a big project code is owned by individuals.
: I agree consistency is very important, as is maintainability.
: It is essential to make sure that the overall design is consistent.
: It is also essential that every part of the system is sufficiently
: clear, well-documented, and so forth that any programmer could make
: modifications to that part of the system, or take over responsibility
: for that part of the system, and consistency of style is important
: in facilitating this. But I'm not convinced that recording
: authorship or assigning areas of responsibility is a bad idea.
: >you lose the advantages of working as a team.
: Teamwork has it's own disadvantages. In particular, productivity goes
: way down! (See "The Mythical Man-Month".) If there is a problem
: in a particular piece of code, it makes sense for the expert on
: that subsystem to be the one to fix it. They'll be able to do
: it quicker, and with less likelyhood of error, than someone who
: is not an expert on that subsystem. It also makes sense for the
: expert on a subsystem to be part of the code review team for any
: changes to that subsystem, and assigning some degree of responsibility
: to the expert can increase their motivation to do a good job of
: code review. Of course you need to make sure that the code is
: sufficiently consistent, well-documented, etc. that anyone can _become_
: the expert, when and if necessary. But it's impossible for everyone
: to be the expert on everything.
: >in the GNAT project ... You absolutely cannot tell
: >who wrote code from its style, and indeed we strongly discourage the notion
: >of authorship (we never for example attach names to units). Sure in practice
: >certain people know certain code well and our informally the experts in
: >particular areas, but if you look at the revision histories, you will see
: >that all sorts of people work in all parts of the system.
: What's wrong with recognizing the role of these informal experts?
: >In my experience, as in sports, this team
: >spirit is a key factor in maintaining a high level of motivation.
: As in sports, I think it is useful to assign individuals particulars
: areas of responsibility. In Australian rules football, a team has
: forwards, a backline, centers, and on-ball players (rovers, a ruckman
: or two, and so forth). It's not just a mob.
: And while team spirit is important, so is individual motivation, and
: a little bit of competition between players is a good thing, so long
: as they're competing for success in meeting the team's objectives,
: not competing for the ball. A team plays better if they have a good
: reserves team, with players competing for spots in the team. And
: players within a team compete for the team's best-and-fairest awards.
: The important thing, IMHO, is finding the right balance.
: --
: Fergus Henderson <fjh@cs.mu.oz.au> | "I have always known that the pursuit
: WWW: <http://www.cs.mu.oz.au/~fjh> | of excellence is a lethal habit"
: PGP: finger fjh@128.250.37.3 | -- the last words of T. S. Garp.
--
************begin r.s. response*************
a closely related question is:
if persons who are supposed to be
programmers
can usefully work in groups
or teams
were such persons not able
to program individually...
?
generally, one may suppose,
those capable of programming
individually would be accepting of
individuality
.
************end r.s. response***************
Ralph Silverman
z007400b@bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us
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1996-06-21 0:00 Language Choice and Coding style Nasser Abbasi
1996-06-21 0:00 ` David Weller
1996-06-21 0:00 ` Giuliano Carlini
1996-06-21 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-06-24 0:00 ` Dr. John B. Matthews
1996-06-21 0:00 ` The Amorphous Mass
1996-06-23 0:00 ` mfinney
1996-06-23 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-06-26 0:00 ` mfinney
1996-06-23 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-06-27 0:00 ` The Amorphous Mass
1996-06-27 0:00 ` Adam Beneschan
1996-06-28 0:00 ` Peter Hermann
1996-06-28 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-07-02 0:00 ` John McCabe
1996-06-28 0:00 ` John McCabe
1996-06-28 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-06-29 0:00 ` Samuel Mize
1996-06-29 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-07-04 0:00 ` Peter Hermann
1996-07-04 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-07-05 0:00 ` software engineering and the notion of authorship Fergus Henderson
1996-07-08 0:00 ` Peter Hermann
1996-07-08 0:00 ` Jakob Engblom
1996-07-08 0:00 ` The Amorphous Mass
1996-07-08 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-07-08 0:00 ` Fergus Henderson
1996-07-09 0:00 ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-07-09 0:00 ` Fergus Henderson
1996-07-11 0:00 ` Paul Eggert
1996-07-08 0:00 ` John Byerly
1996-07-15 0:00 ` Ralph Silverman [this message]
1996-07-15 0:00 ` Fergus Henderson
1996-07-17 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-07-19 0:00 ` Mike Curtis
1996-07-05 0:00 ` Language Choice and Coding style John McCabe
1996-07-04 0:00 ` Dan Evens
1996-07-04 0:00 ` John McCabe
1996-07-02 0:00 ` John McCabe
1996-07-02 0:00 ` Samuel Mize
1996-07-03 0:00 ` Jeff Dege
1996-07-03 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-07-04 0:00 ` John McCabe
1996-07-04 0:00 ` Phil Howard
1996-07-04 0:00 ` Peter Hermann
1996-07-03 0:00 ` John McCabe
1996-07-06 0:00 ` Laurent Guerby
1996-07-19 0:00 ` software engineering and the notion of authorship Andrew Gierth
1996-06-21 0:00 ` Language Choice and Coding style Louis Tribble
1996-06-21 0:00 ` Jerry van Dijk
1996-06-24 0:00 ` Adam Beneschan
1996-06-21 0:00 ` David Emery
1996-06-23 0:00 ` Darin Johnson
[not found] ` <4qeu56$52r@news.interpath.net>
1996-06-23 0:00 ` Nasser Abbasi
1996-06-24 0:00 ` Theodore E. Dennison
1996-06-24 0:00 ` John McCabe
1996-06-24 0:00 ` Peter Hermann
1996-07-01 0:00 ` Alan Brain
1996-07-02 0:00 ` John McCabe
1996-06-24 0:00 ` Adam Beneschan
1996-06-26 0:00 ` Ian Ward
1996-06-26 0:00 ` Nasser Abbasi
1996-06-24 0:00 ` Michael R. Hartwig
1996-06-24 0:00 ` Andreas Schoter
1996-06-29 0:00 ` Rich Maggio
1996-06-29 0:00 ` Samuel Mize
1996-07-01 0:00 ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-07-02 0:00 ` Samuel Mize
1996-07-03 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-07-08 0:00 ` ++ robin
[not found] ` <JSA.96Jun26141502@organon.com>
1996-07-01 0:00 ` Russel A Hill
1996-07-01 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-07-08 0:00 ` Russel A Hill
1996-07-02 0:00 ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-07-02 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-07-03 0:00 ` Mark Eichin
1996-07-02 0:00 ` Nasser Abbasi
1996-07-03 0:00 ` steidl
1996-07-05 0:00 ` Samuel Mize
1996-07-06 0:00 ` N. L. Sizemore
1996-07-08 0:00 ` steidl
[not found] <01BB6E34.8313FAA0@idc213.rb.icl.co.uk>
1996-07-10 0:00 ` software engineering and the notion of authorship Robert Dewar
1996-07-10 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-07-11 0:00 ` Hugh Dunne
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