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From: "Jean-Pierre Rosen" <rosen@adalog.fr>
Subject: Re: Ideas for Ada 200X
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 10:37:51 +0200
Date: 2003-06-04T10:37:51+02:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4sakbb.h8l.ln@skymaster> (raw)
In-Reply-To: bebbba07.0306031101.6ca6a8d6@posting.google.com

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"Russ" <18k11tm001@sneakemail.com> a �crit dans le message news:
bebbba07.0306031101.6ca6a8d6@posting.google.com...
> I actually did this test in C++ several years ago. The "+=" form was
> about three to four times faster. If you're telling me that is not
> true for Ada, I can only conclude that either 1) you did not implement
> it properly, or 2) Ada itself does not implement the procedure
> equivalent to "+=" very efficiently.
Tests in other languages are irrelevant.
Since C++ has the += operator, it will not try to optimize A = A+B

Similarly, translation of FORTRAN benchmarks in Ada give awfull results.
The reason is that there are lots of checks to verify that:
     DO 10 I = 1, N
10   A(I) = B(I)
is correctly optimized into a block copy. Ada compilers don't do that
optimization, since people would rather write:
   A := B.

> Think of it this way:
>
>     A := A + B
>
> is equivalent to
>
>     temp := A -- create temp and copy into it
>     temp += B -- perform addition
>     A := temp -- copy back over to A
>
> How could that possibly be more efficient that simply A += B?
>
As I mentioned, we are talking about big arrays passed as parameters.
If you use a temp, the temp is in the stack. If you access the variable
directly, the address of the variable is in the stack. Therefore, any
reference
to an array element will need an extra dereferencing. That can make a
difference.


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Thread overview: 456+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-05-27  7:44 Ideas for Ada 200X Tony Gair
2003-05-27 13:56 ` Preben Randhol
2003-05-27 15:09   ` chris.danx
2003-05-28 12:19     ` Marin David Condic
2003-05-28 14:31       ` Mark Lorenzen
2003-05-28 13:35         ` Mirko Aigner
2003-05-28 14:37       ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2003-05-28 17:01         ` Ideas for Ada 200X (Ada.Sockets) Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-05-28 17:43           ` Larry Kilgallen
2003-05-28 18:09             ` Jano
2003-05-28 19:24               ` Larry Kilgallen
2003-05-28 19:02             ` chris.danx
2003-05-28 21:20               ` Robert A Duff
2003-05-29 15:45                 ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2003-05-29 16:53                   ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-05-30  9:42                     ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2003-05-30 17:17                       ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-05-30 18:52                         ` Wesley Groleau
2003-05-30 20:52                           ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-05-31  6:12                             ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2003-05-30 21:32                         ` Simon Wright
2003-06-02 21:01                           ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-06-04 21:30                             ` Simon Wright
2003-05-31  6:05                         ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2003-06-01 20:54                           ` Ideas for Ada 200X (Ada.Sockets, enlightened) Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-06-02  7:45                             ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2003-06-02 17:02                               ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-05-29 17:08                   ` Ideas for Ada 200X (Ada.Sockets) tmoran
2003-05-30  9:47                     ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2003-05-30  0:23                   ` Ideas for Ada 200X (CONSOLE_IO) Richard Riehle
2003-05-30  9:46                     ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2003-05-30  7:39                   ` Ideas for Ada 200X (Ada.Sockets) Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-06-02  8:32                 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2003-06-02 14:00                   ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-06-03  8:11                     ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2003-05-28 19:56             ` Martin Dowie
2003-05-28 21:04             ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-05-28 23:05               ` Robert A Duff
2003-05-29 15:47               ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2003-05-29 16:42                 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-05-30  9:57                   ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2003-05-30 17:25                     ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-05-29 15:16             ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2003-05-28 17:53         ` Ideas for Ada 200X Marin David Condic
2003-05-29 15:52           ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2003-05-30 12:17             ` Marin David Condic
2003-05-30 17:34               ` Ideas for Ada 200X (GNAT.IO_Aux.Get_Line) Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-05-31 18:43                 ` Richard Riehle
2003-06-01 19:38                   ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-06-03  0:20                     ` Randy Brukardt
2003-05-28 15:57       ` Ideas for Ada 200X Robert C. Leif
2003-05-28 19:06         ` chris.danx
2003-05-30  0:39       ` Richard Riehle
2003-05-30  6:49         ` Preben Randhol
2003-05-30 15:15           ` Richard Riehle
2003-05-30 12:30         ` Marin David Condic
2003-05-30 13:29           ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2003-05-30 15:24             ` Richard Riehle
2003-05-30 16:02               ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2003-05-30 21:15                 ` Simon Wright
2003-05-30 17:26               ` Wesley Groleau
2003-05-30 19:17                 ` Larry Kilgallen
2003-05-30 20:40                   ` Wesley Groleau
2003-05-31  3:37                 ` Marin David Condic
2003-05-30 21:10           ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-05-31  3:51             ` Marin David Condic
2003-05-31 12:15               ` Dale Stanbrough
2003-05-31 12:49                 ` Marin David Condic
2003-05-31 13:27               ` Simon Wright
2003-05-31 22:09                 ` Marin David Condic
2003-06-01  3:09                   ` Robert C. Leif
2003-06-01  9:19                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-06-01 20:39                       ` Robert C. Leif
2003-06-02  5:13                   ` Wesley Groleau
2003-06-02 12:15                     ` Marin David Condic
2003-06-02 18:46                       ` Wesley Groleau
2003-06-02 17:31               ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-09-12 12:20               ` How to get a »Conventional Ada Library« (Was: Ideas for Ada 200X) Jacob Sparre Andersen
2003-09-12 12:52                 ` Marin David Condic
2003-09-12 13:07                 ` How to get a �Conventional Ada Library� " Martin Dowie
2003-09-13 12:41                   ` How to get a »Conventional Ada Library« " Marin David Condic
2003-09-12 17:43                 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-09-13  8:37                   ` Mário Amado Alves
2003-09-13 13:08                   ` Marin David Condic
2003-09-13 20:48                     ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-09-14 20:05                       ` Marin David Condic
2003-09-18 16:22                     ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-09-19 12:22                       ` Marin David Condic
2003-09-19 16:25                         ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-09-20  2:57                           ` Marin David Condic
2003-09-26  0:13                       ` Matthew Heaney
2003-09-26 13:11                         ` Marin David Condic
2003-09-27  1:06                           ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-09-27 14:59                             ` Marin David Condic
2003-09-27 23:31                               ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-09-28 14:55                                 ` Marin David Condic
2003-09-28 17:56                                   ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-09-29 22:14                                     ` Marin David Condic
2003-06-02  4:51             ` Ideas for Ada 200X Robert C. Leif
2003-05-30 19:43       ` chris.danx
2003-05-28  3:38 ` Frank
2003-05-27 18:53   ` Wesley Groleau
2003-05-28 17:02     ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-05-27 20:38   ` Gautier Write-only
2003-05-28 10:12     ` domin
2003-05-28 10:17       ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-05-28 10:51       ` Preben Randhol
2003-05-29  3:02       ` Wesley Groleau
2003-05-29 18:51         ` Robert A Duff
2003-05-30  6:46           ` Preben Randhol
2003-05-31 18:59           ` Richard Riehle
2003-06-02  8:54             ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-06-03  5:59               ` Richard Riehle
2003-05-28 10:17     ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-05-28 10:30       ` Larry Kilgallen
2003-05-28 10:51         ` Ian Wild
2003-05-28 11:19           ` Larry Kilgallen
2003-05-28 21:34             ` Robert A Duff
2003-05-29 20:56               ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-06-02 11:00               ` Ian Wild
2003-05-28 17:35     ` Alfred Hilscher
2003-05-31 18:46     ` Richard Riehle
2003-05-27 20:43   ` Martin Dowie
2003-05-28  0:25   ` Robert C. Leif
2003-05-28 10:54     ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-05-28 16:03       ` Robert C. Leif
2003-05-28  1:38   ` Jeffrey Carter
2003-05-28  8:04     ` Stuart Palin
2003-05-28  8:06       ` Stuart Palin
2003-05-28  9:44         ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-05-28 13:27           ` Stephen Leake
2003-05-28 15:38             ` Stuart Palin
2003-05-28 17:38         ` Alfred Hilscher
2003-05-28 17:08           ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-05-28 17:38             ` Robert A Duff
2003-05-28 18:30               ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2003-05-28 18:54                 ` Robert A Duff
2003-05-28 20:01                   ` Martin Dowie
2003-05-29  0:14               ` Hyman Rosen
2003-05-29  2:53               ` Wesley Groleau
2003-05-29 18:49                 ` Robert A Duff
2003-05-30  2:38                   ` Mark A. Biggar
2003-05-30 12:55                     ` Robert A Duff
2003-05-30 13:27                       ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2003-05-29  9:17               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-05-30 10:19                 ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2003-05-30 10:36                   ` Larry Kilgallen
2003-05-30 10:43                     ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2003-05-30 13:04                       ` Robert A Duff
2003-05-31 10:17                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-05-28 18:50             ` Pascal Obry
2003-05-29 12:40             ` Alfred Hilscher
2003-05-29 20:59               ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-05-30  6:40             ` Preben Randhol
2003-05-29  2:59           ` Steve
2003-05-29 21:01             ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-05-30  7:26             ` Russ
2003-05-30 16:23               ` Stephen Leake
2003-05-30 17:13                 ` Larry Kilgallen
2003-06-02  9:30                   ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2003-06-02 11:28                     ` Larry Kilgallen
2003-06-02 13:45                     ` Bill Findlay
2003-06-02 13:57                       ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-06-02 14:25                         ` Bill Findlay
2003-06-02 14:55                           ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-06-02 15:46                       ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2003-05-31  0:49                 ` Russ
2003-05-31  6:45                   ` Pascal Obry
2003-05-31 10:25                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-05-31 11:42                       ` Pascal Obry
2003-05-31 13:42                         ` Bill Findlay
2003-05-31 13:59                           ` Bill Findlay
2003-05-31 15:31                           ` John R. Strohm
2003-05-31 16:04                             ` Bill Findlay
2003-05-31 19:18                               ` John R. Strohm
2003-05-31 22:50                                 ` Bill Findlay
2003-06-01  0:15                                   ` John R. Strohm
2003-06-01  1:13                                     ` Bill Findlay
2003-06-02  5:20                             ` [off-topic] format request Wesley Groleau
2003-06-02  6:56                               ` John R. Strohm
2003-06-02 18:51                                 ` Wesley Groleau
2003-06-03  0:42                                   ` John R. Strohm
2003-06-02  6:59                               ` John R. Strohm
2003-05-31 17:18                           ` Ideas for Ada 200X Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-05-31 18:23                             ` Bill Findlay
2003-05-31 22:09                               ` Bill Findlay
2003-05-31 20:08                           ` Robert A Duff
2003-05-31 21:38                             ` John R. Strohm
2003-05-31 23:14                               ` Preben Randhol
2003-05-31 23:51                               ` Robert A Duff
2003-05-31 19:05                     ` Richard Riehle
2003-05-31 23:13                       ` Preben Randhol
2003-06-02  9:36                         ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2003-06-02 11:06                           ` Preben Randhol
2003-05-31  9:27                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-05-31 13:42                   ` Preben Randhol
2003-06-02 16:29                   ` Stephen Leake
2003-06-02 17:58                     ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-06-02 19:11                       ` Stephen Leake
2003-06-02 21:58                         ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-06-03 15:40                           ` Word origins Stephen Leake
2003-06-03 15:51                             ` Preben Randhol
2003-06-04  7:38                               ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-06-04  7:38                             ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-06-16 21:38                           ` Ideas for Ada 200X Vinzent Hoefler
2003-06-03  2:59                     ` Steve
2003-05-30 17:18               ` Wesley Groleau
2003-05-30 17:41                 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-05-30 18:47                   ` Wesley Groleau
2003-05-31 18:49                 ` Russ
2003-06-02  5:27                   ` Wesley Groleau
2003-06-03  5:27                     ` Russ
2003-06-03  7:36                       ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2003-06-03 19:01                         ` Russ
2003-06-03 21:03                           ` tmoran
2003-06-04  2:25                             ` Russ
2003-06-04  1:18                           ` tmoran
2003-06-04 10:10                             ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2003-06-04 13:33                               ` Bill Findlay
2003-06-04 14:21                                 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2003-06-04 20:04                                   ` Bill Findlay
2003-06-05  7:55                                     ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2003-06-04 13:43                               ` Bill Findlay
2003-06-04 14:50                                 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2003-06-04 18:10                               ` tmoran
2003-06-05  7:41                                 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2003-06-04 10:16                             ` Preben Randhol
2003-06-04  8:37                           ` Jean-Pierre Rosen [this message]
2003-06-03  8:09                       ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2003-06-03 17:58                         ` Russ
2003-06-05  2:18                           ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-06-05  8:32                             ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2003-06-03 11:30                       ` Preben Randhol
2003-06-03 11:32                         ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2003-06-03 11:46                           ` Marin David Condic
2003-06-03 12:13                             ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2003-06-03 12:32                               ` Preben Randhol
2003-06-03 12:37                                 ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2003-06-03 12:50                                   ` Preben Randhol
2003-06-03 13:20                                     ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2003-06-03 14:13                                       ` Preben Randhol
2003-06-03 14:22                                       ` Preben Randhol
2003-06-03 14:25                                       ` Adrian Knoth
2003-06-03 14:22                                   ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-06-03 14:37                                     ` Bill Findlay
2003-06-03 16:33                                       ` Robert A Duff
2003-06-03 16:43                                         ` Bill Findlay
2003-06-03 12:06                           ` Preben Randhol
2003-06-03 12:23                             ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2003-06-03 13:36                               ` Bill Findlay
2003-06-03 16:44                                 ` Robert A Duff
2003-06-03 17:01                                   ` Hyman Rosen
2003-06-03 18:47                                   ` Bill Findlay
2003-06-03 19:18                                     ` Robert A Duff
2003-06-03 19:39                                 ` Russ
2003-06-03 20:49                                   ` Bill Findlay
2003-06-03 13:15                             ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2003-06-03 12:37                       ` Larry Kilgallen
2003-06-03 15:26                       ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-06-03 22:20                         ` Russ
2003-06-03 22:44                           ` Bill Findlay
2003-06-04  2:37                             ` Russ
2003-06-04  9:16                               ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2003-06-04 10:21                               ` Preben Randhol
2003-06-04 12:51                               ` Robert A Duff
2003-06-05  6:06                                 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-06-04 16:59                               ` Stephen Leake
2003-06-04 22:38                                 ` Russ
2003-06-05 17:56                                   ` Stephen Leake
2003-06-06 17:15                                     ` Russ
2003-06-06 20:20                                       ` Robert A Duff
2003-06-07  6:24                                         ` Russ
2003-06-09 18:15                                           ` Stephen Leake
2003-06-10  6:33                                             ` Russ
2003-06-10  6:51                                               ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-06-10 10:18                                               ` Preben Randhol
2003-06-11  0:40                                                 ` Russ
2003-06-11  6:00                                                   ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-06-11  7:29                                                   ` Preben Randhol
2003-06-11 12:53                                                   ` Frank J. Lhota
2003-06-12  0:42                                                   ` Richard Riehle
2003-06-12 19:16                                                     ` Russ
2003-06-12 23:10                                                       ` Richard Riehle
2003-06-13  5:41                                                         ` Russ
2003-06-13  6:39                                                           ` tmoran
2003-06-13 12:19                                                             ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-06-13 13:40                                                             ` Hyman Rosen
2003-06-13  7:24                                                           ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-06-13 17:41                                                             ` Russ
2003-06-14 10:53                                                               ` Preben Randhol
2003-06-14 15:02                                                                 ` James Rogers
2003-06-14 15:39                                                                   ` Preben Randhol
2003-06-14 18:45                                                                 ` Russ
2003-06-16 11:23                                                               ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-06-13 11:22                                                           ` Preben Randhol
2003-06-13 17:55                                                             ` Russ
2003-06-13 16:22                                                           ` Richard Riehle
2003-06-13  7:24                                                       ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-06-14  2:12                                                         ` Steve
2003-06-15 17:05                                                           ` Richard Riehle
2003-06-15 18:05                                                             ` Sergey Koshcheyev
2003-06-16  5:45                                                               ` Richard Riehle
2003-06-16  5:10                                                             ` Steve
2003-06-16 13:49                                                               ` Bill Findlay
2003-06-16 14:07                                                                 ` Larry Hazel
2003-06-16 17:43                                                                   ` Russ
2003-06-16 16:19                                                                 ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-06-16 16:56                                                                   ` Bill Findlay
2003-06-16 17:09                                                                     ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-06-16 17:44                                                                       ` Bill Findlay
2003-06-16 19:14                                                                         ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-06-16 20:24                                                                           ` Bill Findlay
2003-06-16  6:25                                                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-06-16 17:16                                                             ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2003-06-16 17:46                                                               ` Bill Findlay
2003-06-16 18:19                                                                 ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-06-16 18:40                                                                   ` Bill Findlay
2003-06-16 19:09                                                                     ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-06-16 19:29                                                                       ` Ideas for Ada 200X "left hand side" repeater Wesley Groleau
2003-06-16 20:31                                                                         ` Bill Findlay
2003-06-16 23:27                                                                           ` Wesley Groleau
2003-06-17  0:30                                                                         ` Chad R. Meiners
2003-06-17  8:18                                                                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-06-17 10:37                                                                             ` Chad R. Meiners
2003-06-17 10:59                                                                           ` Bill Findlay
2003-06-17 13:16                                                                             ` Bill Findlay
2003-06-17 13:38                                                                               ` Preben Randhol
2003-06-17 13:43                                                                                 ` Bill Findlay
2003-06-17 13:56                                                                                   ` Preben Randhol
2003-06-17 16:59                                                                                     ` Wesley Groleau
2003-06-17 17:29                                                                                       ` Bill Findlay
2003-06-18  7:52                                                                                         ` Preben Randhol
2003-06-18 14:39                                                                                           ` Bill Findlay
2003-06-18  7:48                                                                                       ` Preben Randhol
2003-06-19  3:20                                                                                         ` Wesley Groleau
2003-06-19 12:22                                                                                           ` Preben Randhol
2003-06-19 16:23                                                                                             ` Chad R. Meiners
2003-06-20  7:29                                                                                               ` Preben Randhol
2003-06-20  8:00                                                                                               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-06-17 21:03                                                                               ` Chad R. Meiners
2003-06-18 22:13                                                                                 ` John R. Strohm
2003-06-18 23:50                                                                                   ` Chad R. Meiners
2003-06-17 15:23                                                                             ` Francisco Javier Loma Daza
2003-06-16 20:14                                                                       ` Ideas for Ada 200X Bill Findlay
2003-06-16 20:33                                                                         ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-06-16 20:52                                                                     ` Preben Randhol
2003-06-16 21:08                                                                       ` Bill Findlay
2003-06-16 21:13                                                                         ` Preben Randhol
2003-06-16 21:35                                                                           ` Bill Findlay
2003-06-17  8:08                                                                             ` Preben Randhol
2003-06-16 21:24                                                                         ` Pascal Obry
2003-06-16 21:30                                                                           ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-06-16 21:41                                                                             ` Bill Findlay
2003-06-16 21:52                                                                               ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-06-17 13:13                                                                                 ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-06-18  7:18                                                                                   ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-06-16 21:32                                                                           ` Bill Findlay
2003-06-17  5:56                                                                     ` Russ
2003-06-17  8:18                                                                       ` Preben Randhol
2003-06-17 19:48                                                                         ` Russ
2003-06-18  7:58                                                                           ` Preben Randhol
2003-06-17 22:20                                                                         ` Russ
2003-06-17 22:36                                                                           ` Bill Findlay
2003-06-19  1:39                                                                             ` Russ
2003-06-18  8:06                                                                           ` Preben Randhol
2003-06-18  8:10                                                                             ` Preben Randhol
2003-06-18 18:50                                                                           ` Brian Gaffney
2003-06-18 21:38                                                                             ` Russ
2003-06-19  7:42                                                                               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-06-19 17:33                                                                                 ` Russ
2003-06-20  7:53                                                                                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-06-19 20:22                                                                               ` Brian Gaffney
2003-06-18 15:00                                                                     ` Alexander Kopilovitch
2003-06-19  0:31                                                                       ` Amir Yantimirov
2003-06-19 12:24                                                                         ` Preben Randhol
2003-06-20  2:08                                                                           ` Amir Yantimirov
2003-06-20  7:36                                                                             ` Preben Randhol
2003-06-21 12:20                                                                               ` John R. Strohm
2003-06-19 18:37                                                                       ` Alexander Kopilovitch
2003-06-24 10:08                                                                         ` AG
2003-06-24 10:11                                                                           ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2003-06-25 20:06                                                                             ` Bill Findlay
2003-06-26  3:02                                                                               ` Alexander Kopilovitch
2003-06-17  5:10                                                             ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-06-16 11:23                                                           ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-06-16 15:36                                                             ` Wesley Groleau
2003-06-16 15:41                                                               ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-06-17  5:24                                                             ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-06-13 11:31                                                       ` Preben Randhol
2003-06-13 18:22                                                         ` Russ
2003-06-14 10:59                                                           ` Preben Randhol
2003-06-13 11:33                                                       ` Preben Randhol
2003-06-14  9:07                                                         ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-06-11  3:45                                               ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-06-10  9:12                                           ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2003-06-05 19:14                                   ` Wesley Groleau
2003-06-06 18:10                                     ` Russ
2003-06-06 19:10                                       ` Stephen Leake
2003-06-07  1:16                                       ` Wesley Groleau
2003-06-07  5:50                                         ` Russ
2003-06-07  6:32                                           ` tmoran
2003-06-07 18:39                                             ` Russ
2003-06-07 20:00                                               ` Wesley Groleau
2003-06-07 23:04                                                 ` tmoran
2003-06-08  0:48                                                   ` tmoran
2003-06-08  3:49                                                   ` Wesley Groleau
2003-06-08  3:32                                             ` Hyman Rosen
2003-06-09  7:08                                               ` Russ
2003-06-09  7:36                                                 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-06-09 15:51                                                 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-06-09 16:35                                                   ` tmoran
2003-06-09 16:56                                                     ` Hyman Rosen
2003-06-09 18:29                                                       ` tmoran
2003-06-09 19:49                                                         ` Hyman Rosen
2003-06-10 20:33                                                         ` Hyman Rosen
2003-06-10 21:17                                                           ` Ole Kristensen
2003-06-10 23:26                                                             ` tmoran
2003-06-11  4:07                                                               ` Hyman Rosen
2003-06-11  4:23                                                                 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-06-11 10:15                                                               ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2003-06-11 10:22                                                               ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2003-06-11  4:17                                                           ` Hyman Rosen
2003-06-04  9:11                           ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2003-06-04 16:54                           ` Stephen Leake
2003-06-05  4:40                           ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-06-05  8:27                             ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2003-06-05 12:49                               ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2003-06-05 18:02                               ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-06-05 14:14                             ` Bill Findlay
2003-06-05 18:06                             ` Stephen Leake
2003-06-06  1:59                               ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-06-09 23:57                                 ` Robert A Duff
2003-06-03 15:32                       ` Larry Kilgallen
2003-05-30 19:56               ` Robert A Duff
2003-05-31  4:30                 ` Russ
2003-06-02  5:17                   ` Wesley Groleau
2003-05-29  7:32           ` Martin Krischik
2003-05-29 22:48             ` Hyman Rosen
2003-05-30  6:13               ` Martin Krischik
2003-05-30  7:38                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-05-30 16:08                   ` Stephen Leake
2003-05-30 17:12                   ` Wesley Groleau
2003-05-30 17:25                     ` Preben Randhol
2003-05-30 18:49                       ` Wesley Groleau
2003-05-31 13:36                         ` Preben Randhol
2003-05-31  9:28                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-05-30  9:09                 ` Preben Randhol
2003-05-30 13:32                 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-05-30 16:16                   ` Stephen Leake
2003-05-30 17:22                     ` Hyman Rosen
2003-05-30  6:20           ` Preben Randhol
2003-05-29  2:01         ` Jeffrey Carter
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-06-20  1:34 Russ
2003-06-20  2:13 ` Wesley Groleau
2003-06-21 12:24   ` John R. Strohm
2003-06-22  3:52     ` Wesley Groleau
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