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From: claird@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM (Cameron Laird)
Subject: Re: "Assert"?  "Assume"?  (was: next "big" language?? (disagree))
Date: 1996/07/01
Date: 1996-07-01T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4r9fb1$91@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 4qsbm7$r1s@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM


In article <4qsbm7$r1s@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM>, I wondered:
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>Now I'm lost; what kind of people argue for the utility of
>Fact()?  If this congregation thinks pre-processors are
>inherently problematic (they are), then surely we can
>recognize that a Fact() is a confession that the language
>in question promotes implementations which over-specify,
>in comparison to their corresponding designs.  A different
>way to say the same thing:  if P is sufficiently important
>for Fact(P) to be of consequence, then it ought to be
>natural to declare P *in* the language.
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Now I get it.  In my own crude language, Fact() or
Assert() is an ingredient from the workshop of com-
puter language theory.  It certainly is a construct
that be defined, and has definite benefits.

From the standpoint of software engineering, though,
it's hard for me to imagine a situation where the
costs don't overweigh those benefits.

Thanks to those who wrote to elucidate Assert().

Follow-ups severely narrowed.
-- 

Cameron Laird           http://starbase.neosoft.com/~claird/home.html
claird@NeoSoft.com      +1 713 623 8000 #227
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  parent reply	other threads:[~1996-07-01  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <4p0fdd$4ml@news.atlantic.net>
1996-06-04  0:00 ` next "big" language?? (disagree) Peter Hermann
1996-06-04  0:00   ` The Amorphous Mass
1996-06-04  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1996-06-06  0:00       ` Ken Garlington
1996-06-12  0:00       ` Help making ada pretty CSC Trusted Systems Group
1996-06-14  0:00         ` Sandy McPherson
1996-06-19  0:00         ` Ruediger Berlich
1996-06-04  0:00     ` next "big" language?? (disagree) Peter Hermann
1996-06-04  0:00       ` The Amorphous Mass
1996-06-05  0:00         ` Michael David WINIKOFF
1996-06-07  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1996-06-05  0:00     ` Ian Ward
1996-06-05  0:00       ` The Amorphous Mass
1996-06-08  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1996-06-08  0:00           ` The Amorphous Mass
1996-06-09  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
1996-06-08  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1996-06-05  0:00   ` ++           robin
1996-06-05  0:00     ` Ian Ward
1996-06-05  0:00       ` Ian Ward
1996-06-06  0:00         ` Richard Riehle
1996-06-07  0:00           ` Richard Riehle
1996-06-08  0:00             ` O'Connor
1996-06-07  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1996-06-10  0:00             ` Richard Riehle
1996-06-11  0:00           ` ++           robin
1996-06-11  0:00             ` Chris Warack <sys mgr>
1996-06-11  0:00             ` David Weller
1996-06-11  0:00             ` James_Rogers
1996-06-11  0:00               ` Kevin J. Weise
1996-06-11  0:00         ` ++           robin
1996-06-11  0:00           ` Ian Ward
1996-06-12  0:00             ` ++           robin
1996-06-12  0:00               ` Ian Ward
1996-06-11  0:00       ` Jon S Anthony
     [not found]   ` <4p60nk$imd@euas20.eua.ericsson.se>
     [not found]     ` <4p8lmq$oq7@goanna.cs.rmit.edu.au>
1996-06-11  0:00       ` ++           robin
1996-06-11  0:00         ` A. Grant
1996-06-12  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1996-06-17  0:00             ` A. Grant
1996-06-18  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1996-06-24  0:00                 ` Robert I. Eachus
1996-06-26  0:00                   ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-06-19  0:00             ` Jon S Anthony
1996-06-20  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1996-06-24  0:00                 ` Keith Thompson
1996-06-25  0:00                   ` Simon Read
1996-06-25  0:00                   ` Robert A Duff
1996-06-24  0:00                 ` Dale Stanbrough
1996-06-24  0:00                   ` Assertions (was: Re: next "big" language?? (disagree)) Robert A Duff
1996-06-24  0:00                     ` Assertions (a different intent?) Gary McKee
1996-06-24  0:00                     ` Assertions (was: Re: next "big" language?? (disagree)) Robert Dewar
1996-06-25  0:00                       ` Robert A Duff
1996-06-28  0:00                         ` Robert Dewar
     [not found]                     ` <4qrljg$15l8@watnews1.watson.ibm.com>
1996-06-28  0:00                       ` Robert Dewar
1996-06-24  0:00                   ` next "big" language?? (disagree) hopkinc
1996-06-24  0:00                   ` Lars Duening
1996-06-24  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
1996-06-24  0:00                   ` Adam Beneschan
1996-06-26  0:00                   ` Marc C. Brooks
1996-06-26  0:00                   ` Marc C. Brooks
     [not found]                   ` <4qsbm7$r1s@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM>
1996-06-28  0:00                     ` "Assert"? "Assume"? (was: next "big" language?? (disagree)) Alexander Bunkenburg
1996-06-28  0:00                       ` Ian Collier
1996-07-01  0:00                     ` Cameron Laird [this message]
1996-06-24  0:00                 ` next "big" language?? (disagree) Adam Beneschan
1996-06-25  0:00                 ` Darin Johnson
1996-06-26  0:00                   ` Dale Stanbrough
1996-06-26  0:00                   ` A. Grant
1996-06-25  0:00                 ` Brian Nettleton @pulsar
1996-06-26  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
1996-06-28  0:00                     ` Fergus Henderson
1996-06-28  0:00                       ` Robert Dewar
1996-06-30  0:00                         ` Fergus Henderson
1996-06-30  0:00                           ` Robert Dewar
1996-06-12  0:00           ` ++           robin
1996-06-12  0:00             ` A. Grant
1996-06-14  0:00               ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-06-12  0:00         ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-06-12  0:00           ` ++           robin
1996-06-12  0:00             ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-06-13  0:00               ` ++           robin
1996-06-13  0:00               ` ++           robin
1996-06-12  0:00   ` Jon S Anthony
1996-06-14  0:00   ` Jon S Anthony
1996-06-15  0:00   ` Jon S Anthony
1996-06-18  0:00     ` Adam Beneschan
1996-06-18  0:00   ` Jon S Anthony
1996-06-28  0:00     ` Assertions (an heretic view) Michel Gauthier
1996-06-28  0:00       ` Robert A Duff
1996-06-28  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
1996-06-06  0:00 ` next "big" language?? (disagree) Dale Pontius
1996-06-11  0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-06-12  0:00 ` Help making ada pretty Pedro de las Heras
1996-06-18  0:00 ` next "big" language?? (disagree) ++           robin
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