From: "Kevin J. Weise" <kweise@c3i-ccmail.sed.redstone.army.mil>
Subject: Re: Is the "Ada mandate" being reconsidered?
Date: 1996/06/14
Date: 1996-06-14T00:00:00+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4prtdi$3gs@michp1.redstone.army.mil> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 4prqqk$4ho@news.sei.cmu.edu
msb@sei.cmu.edu (Mark Bell) wrote:
>11-Jun-96 12:12 Michael Levasseur <levass@gdesystems.com> writes
>
>>COTS - These movement to COTS hass been including move and
>>more code that has been written in C++ as well 4GL stuff.
>
>COTS may not be the panacea that everyone thinks it is. There
>are questions to consider with the COTS approach:
>
[questions deleted]
>I'm not saying that COTS is categorically bad; I'm saying that COTS
>is not the end all solution to all our problems.
>
>The allure of saving development time by purchasing COTS software
>may be eaten up during integration time when it is discovered that
>the software is not robust in your particular application because you
>are exercising it in ways the designers did not envision or test for.
>
Those are all very good questions to ask; and all points are well taken. But it
doesn't seem to help weed out one of the most insidious dodges to the use of Ada
that I've seen, which is:
While chasing project X, implement as much of the project according to req'ts
as known at the time under the guise of IR&D, using language Y (or Y++).
(After all, IR&D is not convered by *the Mandate*.) Then, during the proposal,
offer all this software as COTS! You can probably say that it won't require
more than 33% modification, too (to avoid having to convert it to Ada)!
Its a dodge that can't be beat :-(. Even if you lose the proposal, the gov't
usually refunds a significant amount of the IR&D dev't cost, provided you can show
that the IR&D did something useful.
>Mark S. Bell 412-268-7925 (Voice)
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1996-06-14 0:00 Is the "Ada mandate" being reconsidered? Mark Bell
1996-06-14 0:00 ` Kevin J. Weise [this message]
1996-06-17 0:00 ` Theodore E. Dennison
1996-06-18 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-06-24 0:00 ` Michael Levasseur
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1996-07-16 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
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1996-06-21 0:00 Bob Crispen
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1996-06-25 0:00 ` Michael Feldman
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1996-07-01 0:00 ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-06-27 0:00 ` Jim Kingdon
1996-06-27 0:00 ` Bob Crispen
1996-06-28 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-06-30 0:00 ` Ronald Cole
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1996-07-08 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
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1996-06-19 0:00 ` Jim Kingdon
1996-06-14 0:00 Mark Bell
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1996-05-08 0:00 ` Tucker Taft
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1996-05-10 0:00 ` Robert Munck
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1996-05-14 0:00 ` Robert Munck
1996-05-14 0:00 ` Tucker Taft
1996-05-17 0:00 ` Robert Munck
1996-05-13 0:00 ` Theodore E. Dennison
1996-05-08 0:00 ` David Weller
1996-06-03 0:00 ` Roy M. Bell
1996-06-09 0:00 ` Peggy Byers
1996-06-09 0:00 ` David Weller
1996-06-09 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-06-10 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
1996-06-10 0:00 ` Paul Whittington
1996-06-10 0:00 ` Tucker Taft
1996-06-10 0:00 ` James Krell
1996-06-11 0:00 ` Michael Levasseur
1996-06-12 0:00 ` Theodore E. Dennison
1996-06-13 0:00 ` Michael Levasseur
1996-06-14 0:00 ` Theodore E. Dennison
1996-06-15 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-06-17 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
1996-06-20 0:00 ` Joe Gwinn
1996-06-25 0:00 ` Bob Kitzberger
1996-06-12 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
1996-06-11 0:00 ` Jim Kingdon
1996-06-11 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-06-12 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-06-12 0:00 ` Tom Robinson
1996-06-12 0:00 ` Fergus Henderson
1996-06-13 0:00 ` Tom Robinson
1996-06-13 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-06-18 0:00 ` Theodore E. Dennison
1996-06-18 0:00 ` Theodore E. Dennison
1996-06-13 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-06-24 0:00 ` Carl Bowman
1996-06-13 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-06-13 0:00 ` Tucker Taft
1996-06-14 0:00 ` Tom Robinson
1996-06-13 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-06-13 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-06-14 0:00 ` Jim Kingdon
1996-06-21 0:00 ` Richard Riehle
1996-06-22 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-06-14 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-06-14 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
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