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From: Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: Simulating the rolling of dices to produce truly random numbers?
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 09:40:33 -0500
Date: 2018-01-11T09:40:33-05:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4mte5dps11pc68n5n6094vsdjenag06v4o@4ax.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 8f2e0ccd-10c8-40c6-a2e4-6d17ba2bc250@googlegroups.com

On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 04:45:27 -0800 (PST), AdaMagica
<christ-usch.grein@t-online.de> declaimed the following:

>Am Mittwoch, 10. Januar 2018 23:54:46 UTC+1 schrieb Mace Ayres:
>> If I choose n among the set 1..500, based on my own sense of randomness, is that random?
>
>Depends on how you choose. If you take 500 cards and shuffle suffiently after each choice, the outcome depends on your shuffling skills. Result might be quite random.
>

	Don't know if it applies with 500 cards... but 8 perfect riffle
shuffles with a standard 52 card deck will restore the deck to its starting
arrangement -- so no randomness there. One could probably argue that any
number of perfect riffles won't add randomness <G>
-- 
	Wulfraed                 Dennis Lee Bieber         AF6VN
    wlfraed@ix.netcom.com    HTTP://wlfraed.home.netcom.com/

  reply	other threads:[~2018-01-11 14:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-10 15:50 Simulating the rolling of dices to produce truly random numbers? Mr. Man-wai Chang
2018-01-10 16:52 ` Robert Wessel
2018-01-10 16:55   ` Mr. Man-wai Chang
2018-01-10 16:59     ` Robert Wessel
2018-01-10 17:00       ` Mr. Man-wai Chang
2018-01-10 17:16         ` Robert Wessel
2018-01-10 16:55   ` Robert Wessel
2018-01-10 16:58     ` Mr. Man-wai Chang
2018-01-10 21:07       ` David Brown
2018-01-10 17:20 ` Joe Pfeiffer
2018-01-10 17:22   ` Mr. Man-wai Chang
2018-01-10 17:32     ` Robert Wessel
2018-01-10 18:15       ` Richard Heathfield
2018-01-10 19:09         ` Robert Wessel
2018-01-10 17:38     ` Joe Pfeiffer
2018-01-10 17:48       ` Mr. Man-wai Chang
2018-01-10 18:43         ` Joe Pfeiffer
2018-01-10 18:20   ` Scott Lurndal
2018-01-10 18:23     ` Lew Pitcher
2018-01-10 20:29 ` Chris M. Thomasson
2018-01-10 22:54 ` Mace Ayres
2018-01-11  1:31   ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2018-01-11 12:45   ` AdaMagica
2018-01-11 14:40     ` Dennis Lee Bieber [this message]
2018-01-12  2:32     ` Mace Ayres
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