From: rlk@rational.com (Bob Kitzberger)
Subject: Re: [Q] Tools for Ada Quality and Style
Date: 1996/05/01
Date: 1996-05-01T00:00:00+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4m860r$2c5@rational.rational.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: dewar.830919875@schonberg
Robert Dewar (dewar@cs.nyu.edu) wrote:
: However, I must say, I don't like ANY tools that mess with what I type.
: Even tiny ones! If you rely on even tiny tools to clean up your sources,
: it means that you are tolerating at least for a limited time, untidy
: sources, and I think the best path to uniformity is to foster an
: attitude that just can't *stand* to look at code that is not properly
: formatted.
I also can't stand to look at code that is not properly formatted.
HOWEVER, I also think it is a waste of programmer's time to
format text! Tools solve this problem quickly -- an integreated
editor and pretty printer (of course, that's the approach we
take with Apex, where you can use either the Apex editor or
emacs. Code is "ugly" while I type it, but only for a matter
of seconds until I hit the "F9" key). I can live with that brief
moment of ugliness, for at the tap of a key it is all made pretty
and consistent -- MUCH faster than I can do it myself.
I _used to_ care about lining up all procedure parameters just so,
etc. But that's quibbling about trivia; the important thing is that a
formatting convention be consistent, not that it line things up just
so, IMHO. Tools ensure that consistency with minimal overhead.
I'm a little surprised, Robert, that you don't prefer the tool
approach.
(in a previous life, I worked on a project that was
under the gun to get a feature set ready for demonstration
that week. I had finished a device driver and handed it over
to another engineer who needed to get it working with his
error simulation stuff -- demo the next morning. I checked
in with him in mid-afternoon, and he didn't have things
working yet -- he was REFORMATTING MY CODE BY HAND).
--
Bob Kitzberger Rational Software Corporation rlk@rational.com
http://www.rational.com http://www.rational.com/pst/products/testmate.html
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Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
1996-04-30 0:00 [Q] Tools for Ada Quality and Style Bob Crispen
1996-04-30 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-05-01 0:00 ` Bob Kitzberger [this message]
1996-05-02 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-05-02 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
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1996-04-17 0:00 Ada naming conventions? Bob Crispen
1996-04-25 0:00 ` [Q] Tools for Ada Quality and Style JP Thornley
1996-04-26 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
1996-04-27 0:00 ` Bob Crispen
1996-04-28 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-29 0:00 ` JP Thornley
1996-04-30 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
1996-04-30 0:00 ` Peter Milliken
1996-04-30 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-05-05 0:00 ` Geert Bosch
1996-05-07 0:00 ` Peter Milliken
1996-04-30 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
1996-04-30 0:00 ` David Sanderson, IV
1996-04-30 0:00 ` Laurent Guerby
1996-04-30 0:00 ` Frank Falk
1996-04-30 0:00 ` David Weller
1996-05-04 0:00 ` LJMetzger
1996-05-04 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-30 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-05-06 0:00 ` Rolf Ebert
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