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* Ada News Brief - 96-04-19.txt [1/1]
@ 1996-04-19  0:00 ReuseIC
  1996-04-20  0:00 ` Ada95 products to be developed with 50% taxpayer funding -- not very distinguished The Right Reverend Colin James III
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: ReuseIC @ 1996-04-19  0:00 UTC (permalink / raw)


Ada News Brief
Week Ending: April 19, 1996


Ada 95 PRODUCTS TO BE DEVELOPED THROUGH ATIP-P PROGRAM

Ten private sector companies have been awarded contracts 
through the Ada Technology Insertion Program-Partnership 
(ATIP-P). Spearheaded by the Department of Energy�s Idaho 
National Engineering Laboratory (INEL), ATIP-P is part of a 
broad effort mounted by the Defense Information Systems 
Agency�s Ada Joint Program Office (AJPO) to stimulate 
utilization of Ada 95 within the government, academic, 
industrial, and research communities.  

Awarding of the contracts completes the AJPO�s competitive 
initiative to partner with proposing organizations to 
equally share (50/50) in the funding and commercialization 
of Ada 95 products. Products developed through the 
partnerships will increase the availability of Ada 95 tools 
and plug many technology gaps to successfully implement Ada 
95. Products are expected to be available in 1996. 

The 10 private sector companies and the areas their tools 
will address are:

  Ada Software, Inc., Laurel, MD -- Provide Internet 
 accessible Ada 95 training.
 
  DDC-I Inc., Phoenix, AZ -- Provide Ada 95 software 
 test tools based on the established ASIS 95 standard.
 
  Intermetrics, Inc., Cambridge, MA -- Enter Ada 95 into 
the expanding needs of the World Wide Web and �Applet� 
generation by providing an Ada 95 to Java J-code 
compiler.

  McKee Consulting, Littleton, CO -- Provide an Ada 95 
development environment for the Apple Macintosh.
 
  NOETIC Software, Inc., Willow Grove, PA -- Provide 
bindings to the standard data interface bus MIL-STD-1553B 
and the designated commercial standard. 
  Objective Interface Systems, Inc., Reston, VA -- 
Distributed processing and client/server interfaces using 
the CORBA standard.
 
  OC Systems, Inc., Fairfax, VA -- Provide a visual 
programming environment and object libraries.
 
  Software, Inc., Madison, WI -- Provide object-oriented 
bindings to the Win 32 development environment.
 
  Stony Brook Software, Thousand Oaks, CA -- Provide a 
Fast/Optimized Compiler and GUI development environment.
 
  WPL Laboratories, Inc., Haverford, PA -- position Ada 95 
to share in the rapid World Wide Web growth with Web-
based Ada components.

Further information regarding the ATIP-P program can be 
obtained from the INEL program manager, Doug Colonel, at 
208/526-0204, fax: 208/562-8086, or e-mail: col@inel.gov. 

The AdaIC will provide additional information on the details 
of each contract award.

SOURCE:
Ada Joint Program Office 


THOMSON SOFTWARE PRODUCTS OFFERING FREE Ada 95 SEMINAR!

Thomson Software Products will be hosting six free 1/2 day 
seminars at the locations listed below. The seminar topic
will be: Ada 95 Technical Overview. A detailed agenda can be 
faxed by request. More specific information will be avail- 
able on Thomson�s web page: http://www. thomsoft.com

Call or send e-mail to receive more information: 
Toll free: 800-833-0085 x244 or x267
Direct:    619-457-2700 x244 or x267 
E-mail:    adainfo@thomsoft.com

April 30, 1996 - Huntsville, AL
May 1, 1996 - 	Tyson's Corner, VA
May 14, 1996 - Philadelphia, PA
May 15, 1996 - Fairborn, OH
May 29, 1996 - Waltham, MA
May 30, 1996 - Ottawa, ON, Canada

If you cannot attend, contact Thomson Software Products for 
seminar materials.

SOURCE:
Posted by Thomson Software Products to comp.lang.ada


Ada 95 BOOCH COMPONENTS AVAILABLE FOR FREE!

Ada 95 Booch Components has just been released and is 
available for free at ftp://ftp.dfw.net/pub/users/dweller!  
This release only provides the Queues sequential
hierarchy, but near-future releases will include other 
components. Select the �.zip� file if using a Microsoft 
operating system other than Windows 95 or Windows NT.

Make sure to read the supplemental data provided and check 
out the web page located at http://www.ocsystems.com/booch.
Also check out the Ada 95 Booch Component�s Homepage at 
http://www.ocsystems.com/booch.

SOURCE:
Posted by David Weller to comp.lang.ada


Ada 95 AND RATIONAL: WORKING TOGETHER IN SAFETY-CRITICAL/ 
MISSION-CRITICAL APPLICATIONS

Rational Software Corporation is heightening awareness of 
Ada�s important role in safety-critical applications as 
businesses have begun self-imposing tougher internal 
standards for testing and documenting software. Rational�s 
article, �Look to Rational for Safety-Critical/Mission-
Critical Application Development Tools�, discusses the 
number of standards that have emerged to help improve the 
quality of applications and to shorten the development 
cycles that produce them.

Rational offers Ada and its own line of Ada products as a 
means of cutting down on the expense and time needed to 
develop safety-critical applications. Because Ada is, 
�rigorously defined, formally standardized, and designed for 
the creation of reliable systems�, it can only aid 
businesses in their development of safety-critical 
applications.

Rational now offers VADS-sc, a line of Ada products 
specially configured for the development of safety-critical 
applications to the toughest level of criticality specified 
by DO-178B level A (standard enforced by the FAA). Other 
elements of Rational�s Ada toolset that can be used to 
improve the quality and reduce the risk of software 
development efforts include: Rational Rose/Ada, Rational 
Apex, TestMate and SoDA.  

SOURCE:
�Look to Rational for Safety-Critical/Mission-Critical 
	Application Development Tools,� The Rational Watch. 
	1996, Vol.6, No.1.


Ada VERIFICATION TOOLS AVAILABLE FROM DDC-I

DDC-I, Inc. recently announced the release of DACS - 
Qualified, a set of FAA qualified Ada verification tools. 
The tools are used for verification of structural coverage 
in testing applications supporting both source level 
statement coverage as well as object code coverage. Each 
tool has been qualified and used for FAA certification of 
Assembly applications, Ada applications and Ada Run-Time 
Systems. The tools are non-intrusive, support cross 
development and are easy to use.

For more information, contact:
Jennifer C. Sanchez, DDC-I, Inc., 400 N.5th St., Phoenix, AZ
85004, Phone: 602/275-7172, Fax: 602/252-6054, 
http://www.ddci.com

SOURCE:
DDC-I, Inc. News Release.


The AdaIC�s �Ada News Brief� is a compilation of summaries 
from Ada-related articles in trade magazines, newsletters 
and press releases. The AdaIC welcomes suggestions for and 
pointers to Ada-related articles. Contact the AdaIC at:  

Ada Information Clearinghouse
P.O. Box 1866
Falls-Church, VA 22041
1-800/232-4211 or 703/681-2466
adainfo@sw-eng.falls-church.va.us
http://sw-eng.falls-church.va.us 

To subscribe to the Ada News Brief listserv, send a message 
to:
	listproc@sw-eng.falls-church.va.us 
In the body of the message, write:
	subscribe adanews
To unsubscribe, write:
	unsubscribe adanews

No signatures please.






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* Ada News Brief - 96-04-19.txt [1/1]
@ 1996-04-19  0:00 AdaIC
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: AdaIC @ 1996-04-19  0:00 UTC (permalink / raw)


Ada News Brief
Week Ending: April 19, 1996

**************************************************************
Ada 95 PRODUCTS TO BE DEVELOPED THROUGH ATIP-P PROGRAM
**************************************************************
Ten private sector companies have been awarded contracts 
through the Ada Technology Insertion Program-Partnership 
(ATIP-P). Spearheaded by the Department of Energy's Idaho 
National Engineering Laboratory (INEL), ATIP-P is part of a 
broad effort mounted by the Defense Information Systems 
Agency's Ada Joint Program Office (AJPO) to stimulate 
utilization of Ada 95 within the government, academic, 
industrial, and research communities.  

Awarding of the contracts completes the AJPO's competitive 
initiative to partner with proposing organizations to 
equally share (50/50) in the funding and commercialization 
of Ada 95 products. Products developed through the 
partnerships will increase the availability of Ada 95 tools 
and plug many technology gaps to successfully implement Ada 
95. Products are expected to be available in 1996. 

The 10 private sector companies and the areas their tools 
will address are:

*  Ada Software, Inc., Laurel, MD -- Provide Internet 
 accessible Ada 95 training.
 
* DDC-I Inc., Phoenix, AZ -- Provide Ada 95 software 
 test tools based on the established ASIS 95 standard.
 
* Intermetrics, Inc., Cambridge, MA -- Enter Ada 95 into 
the expanding needs of the World Wide Web and "Applet" 
generation by providing an Ada 95 to Java J-code 
compiler.

* McKee Consulting, Littleton, CO -- Provide an Ada 95 
development environment for the Apple Macintosh.
 
* NOETIC Software, Inc., Willow Grove, PA -- Provide 
bindings to the standard data interface bus MIL-STD-1553B 
and the designated commercial standard. 
  
* Objective Interface Systems, Inc., Reston, VA -- 
Distributed processing and client/server interfaces using 
the CORBA standard.
 
* OC Systems, Inc., Fairfax, VA -- Provide a visual 
programming environment and object libraries.
 
* Software, Inc., Madison, WI -- Provide object-oriented 
bindings to the Win 32 development environment.
 
* Stony Brook Software, Thousand Oaks, CA -- Provide a 
Fast/Optimized Compiler and GUI development environment.
 
* WPL Laboratories, Inc., Haverford, PA -- position Ada 95 
to share in the rapid World Wide Web growth with Web-
based Ada components.

Further information regarding the ATIP-P program can be 
obtained from the INEL program manager, Doug Colonel, at 
208/526-0204, fax: 208/562-8086, or e-mail: col@inel.gov. 

The AdaIC will provide additional information on the details 
of each contract award.

SOURCE:
Ada Joint Program Office 

****************************************************************
THOMSON SOFTWARE PRODUCTS OFFERING FREE Ada 95 SEMINAR!
****************************************************************
Thomson Software Products will be hosting six free 1/2 day 
seminars at the locations listed below. The seminar topic
will be: Ada 95 Technical Overview. A detailed agenda can be 
faxed by request. More specific information will be avail- 
able on Thomson's web page: http://www. thomsoft.com

Call or send e-mail to receive more information: 
Toll free: 800-833-0085 x244 or x267
Direct:    619-457-2700 x244 or x267 
E-mail:    adainfo@thomsoft.com

April 30, 1996 - Huntsville, AL
May 1, 1996 -   Tyson's Corner, VA
May 14, 1996 - Philadelphia, PA
May 15, 1996 - Fairborn, OH
May 29, 1996 - Waltham, MA
May 30, 1996 - Ottawa, ON, Canada

If you cannot attend, contact Thomson Software Products for 
seminar materials.

SOURCE:
Posted by Thomson Software Products to comp.lang.ada

*************************************************
Ada 95 BOOCH COMPONENTS AVAILABLE FOR FREE!
*************************************************
Ada 95 Booch Components has just been released and is 
available for free at ftp://ftp.dfw.net/pub/users/dweller!  
This release only provides the Queues sequential
hierarchy, but near-future releases will include other 
components. Select the ".zip" file if using a Microsoft 
operating system other than Windows 95 or Windows NT.

Make sure to read the supplemental data provided and check 
out the web page located at http://www.ocsystems.com/booch.
Also check out the Ada 95 Booch Component's Homepage at 
http://www.ocsystems.com/booch.

SOURCE:
Posted by David Weller to comp.lang.ada

****************************************************************
Ada 95 AND RATIONAL: WORKING TOGETHER IN SAFETY-CRITICAL/ 
MISSION-CRITICAL APPLICATIONS
****************************************************************
Rational Software Corporation is heightening awareness of 
Ada's important role in safety-critical applications as 
businesses have begun self-imposing tougher internal 
standards for testing and documenting software. Rational's 
article, "Look to Rational for Safety-Critical/Mission-
Critical Application Development Tools", discusses the 
number of standards that have emerged to help improve the 
quality of applications and to shorten the development 
cycles that produce them.

Rational offers Ada and its own line of Ada products as a 
means of cutting down on the expense and time needed to 
develop safety-critical applications. Because Ada is, 
"rigorously defined, formally standardized, and designed for 
the creation of reliable systems", it can only aid 
businesses in their development of safety-critical 
applications.

Rational now offers VADS-sc, a line of Ada products 
specially configured for the development of safety-critical 
applications to the toughest level of criticality specified 
by DO-178B level A (standard enforced by the FAA). Other 
elements of Rational's Ada toolset that can be used to 
improve the quality and reduce the risk of software 
development efforts include: Rational Rose/Ada, Rational 
Apex, TestMate and SoDA.  

SOURCE:
"Look to Rational for Safety-Critical/Mission-Critical 
	Application Development Tools," The Rational Watch. 
	1996, Vol.6, No.1.

*************************************************
Ada VERIFICATION TOOLS AVAILABLE FROM DDC-I
*************************************************
DDC-I, Inc. recently announced the release of DACS - 
Qualified, a set of FAA qualified Ada verification tools. 
The tools are used for verification of structural coverage 
in testing applications supporting both source level 
statement coverage as well as object code coverage. Each 
tool has been qualified and used for FAA certification of 
Assembly applications, Ada applications and Ada Run-Time 
Systems. The tools are non-intrusive, support cross 
development and are easy to use.

For more information, contact:
Jennifer C. Sanchez, DDC-I, Inc., 400 N.5th St., Phoenix, AZ
85004, Phone: 602/275-7172, Fax: 602/252-6054, 
http://www.ddci.com

SOURCE:
DDC-I, Inc. News Release.

**************************************************
The AdaIC's "Ada News Brief" is a compilation of summaries 
from Ada-related articles in trade magazines, newsletters 
and press releases. The AdaIC welcomes suggestions for and 
pointers to Ada-related articles. Contact the AdaIC at:  

Ada Information Clearinghouse
P.O. Box 1866
Falls-Church, VA 22041
1-800/232-4211 or 703/681-2466
adainfo@sw-eng.falls-church.va.us
http://sw-eng.falls-church.va.us 

To subscribe to the Ada News Brief listserv, send a message 
to:
	listproc@sw-eng.falls-church.va.us 
In the body of the message, write:
	subscribe adanews
To unsubscribe, write:
	unsubscribe adanews

No signatures please.






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* Ada95 products to be developed with 50% taxpayer funding -- not very distinguished
  1996-04-19  0:00 Ada News Brief - 96-04-19.txt [1/1] ReuseIC
@ 1996-04-20  0:00 ` The Right Reverend Colin James III
  1996-04-20  0:00   ` Ada95 products to be developed with 50% taxpayer funding -- Gary McKee
  1996-04-21  0:00   ` Ada95 products to be developed with 50% taxpayer funding -- not very distinguished Tucker Taft
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: The Right Reverend Colin James III @ 1996-04-20  0:00 UTC (permalink / raw)


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reuseic@sw-eng.falls-church.va.us (ReuseIC) posted with deletions:
Not one of the ten companies below is the least distinguished, nor are
their products particularly distinguished.

Intermetrics is famous for peddling C++ at the expense of Ada, and McKee
Consulting, well, just look at the owners resume on csn.net -- what a joke.

| Ada News Brief
| Week Ending: April 19, 1996
| 
| 
| Ada 95 PRODUCTS TO BE DEVELOPED THROUGH ATIP-P PROGRAM
| 
| Ten private sector companies have been awarded contracts 
| through the Ada Technology Insertion Program-Partnership 
| (ATIP-P). Spearheaded by the Department of Energy�s Idaho 
| National Engineering Laboratory (INEL), ATIP-P is part of a 
| broad effort mounted by the Defense Information Systems 
| Agency�s Ada Joint Program Office (AJPO) to stimulate 
| utilization of Ada 95 within the government, academic, 
| industrial, and research communities.  
| 
| Awarding of the contracts completes the AJPO�s competitive 
| initiative to partner with proposing organizations to 
| equally share (50/50) in the funding and commercialization 
| of Ada 95 products. Products developed through the 
| partnerships will increase the availability of Ada 95 tools 
| and plug many technology gaps to successfully implement Ada 
| 95. Products are expected to be available in 1996. 
| 
| The 10 private sector companies and the areas their tools 
| will address are:
| 
|   Ada Software, Inc., Laurel, MD -- Provide Internet 
|  accessible Ada 95 training.
|  
|   DDC-I Inc., Phoenix, AZ -- Provide Ada 95 software 
|  test tools based on the established ASIS 95 standard.
|  
|   Intermetrics, Inc., Cambridge, MA -- Enter Ada 95 into 
| the expanding needs of the World Wide Web and �Applet� 
| generation by providing an Ada 95 to Java J-code 
| compiler.
| 
|   McKee Consulting, Littleton, CO -- Provide an Ada 95 
| development environment for the Apple Macintosh.
|  
|   NOETIC Software, Inc., Willow Grove, PA -- Provide 
| bindings to the standard data interface bus MIL-STD-1553B 
| and the designated commercial standard. 
|   Objective Interface Systems, Inc., Reston, VA -- 
| Distributed processing and client/server interfaces using 
| the CORBA standard.
|  
|   OC Systems, Inc., Fairfax, VA -- Provide a visual 
| programming environment and object libraries.
|  
|   Software, Inc., Madison, WI -- Provide object-oriented 
| bindings to the Win 32 development environment.
|  
|   Stony Brook Software, Thousand Oaks, CA -- Provide a 
| Fast/Optimized Compiler and GUI development environment.
|  
|   WPL Laboratories, Inc., Haverford, PA -- position Ada 95 
| to share in the rapid World Wide Web growth with Web-
| based Ada components.


~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
Re-usable, patented financial software for the Stock Market 
Colin James III, Principal Scientist, email: cjames@bod.net
CEC Services, LLC, 2080 Kipling St, Lakewood, CO 80215-1502
Tel: 303.231.9437;  Facs: 303.231.9438;  Data: 303.231.9434 
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~





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* Re: Ada95 products to be developed with 50% taxpayer funding --
  1996-04-20  0:00 ` Ada95 products to be developed with 50% taxpayer funding -- not very distinguished The Right Reverend Colin James III
@ 1996-04-20  0:00   ` Gary McKee
  1996-04-21  0:00     ` The Right Reverend Colin James III
  1996-04-22  0:00     ` Robert C. Martin
  1996-04-21  0:00   ` Ada95 products to be developed with 50% taxpayer funding -- not very distinguished Tucker Taft
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Gary McKee @ 1996-04-20  0:00 UTC (permalink / raw)


In article <31783b08.300759329@snews.zippo.com>,
cjames@boss.bod.net (The Right Reverend Colin James III) wrote:

 > reuseic@sw-eng.falls-church.va.us (ReuseIC) posted with deletions:
 > Not one of the ten companies below is the least distinguished, nor are
 > their products particularly distinguished.
 > 
 > Intermetrics is famous for peddling C++ at the expense of Ada, and McKee
 > Consulting, well, just look at the owners resume on csn.net -- what a
joke.
--------------------------------------------------------
My resume does include a pointer to a famous quote from FDR about the 
relevance of people who stay on tthe sidelines and criticize those who 
are getting the job done. Look for "a touch of attitude", also quoted
below.
--------------------------------------------------------
A Touch of Attitude

Are the coyotes yapping at your heels?
Read what FDR is reputed to have said in an excerpt called:
To the Man in the Arena. <http://www.csn.net/~gmckee/man.arena.html>
--------------------------------------------------------

--------------------------------------------------------------------
Gary McKee                           McKee Consulting
gmckee@cloudnine.com                 P. O. Box 3009
voice: (303) 795-7287                Littleton, CO 80161-3009
WWW home page =>                     <http://www.csn.net/~gmckee/>
--------------------------------------------------------------------




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* Re: Ada95 products to be developed with 50% taxpayer funding -- not very distinguished
  1996-04-20  0:00 ` Ada95 products to be developed with 50% taxpayer funding -- not very distinguished The Right Reverend Colin James III
  1996-04-20  0:00   ` Ada95 products to be developed with 50% taxpayer funding -- Gary McKee
@ 1996-04-21  0:00   ` Tucker Taft
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Tucker Taft @ 1996-04-21  0:00 UTC (permalink / raw)


The Right Reverend Colin James III (cjames@boss.bod.net) wrote:

: ...
: Intermetrics is famous for peddling C++ at the expense of Ada ...

That's interesting.  We have never sold a C++ compiler, as far
as I know, though of course, we might someday.  We have built
Ada, C, Jovial, Pascal, Chill, Modula, Hal/S, SPL/1, VHDL, ... compilers.

We are, and have been for 25 years, in the general compiler 
and languages business, as well as IV&V for the Space Shuttle, 
GPS, Boeing 757, etc.  Ada is an important piece of our business, 
but has never been all of our business.  We believe our breadth of
knowledge in the languages field is a strength.

-Tucker Taft   stt@inmet.com   http://www.inmet.com/~stt/
Intermetrics, Inc.  Cambridge, MA  USA




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* Re: Ada95 products to be developed with 50% taxpayer funding --
  1996-04-20  0:00   ` Ada95 products to be developed with 50% taxpayer funding -- Gary McKee
@ 1996-04-21  0:00     ` The Right Reverend Colin James III
  1996-04-22  0:00     ` Robert C. Martin
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: The Right Reverend Colin James III @ 1996-04-21  0:00 UTC (permalink / raw)


gmckee@cloudnine.com (Gary McKee) posted with deletions:

| In article <31783b08.300759329@snews.zippo.com>,
| cjames@boss.bod.net (The Right Reverend Colin James III) wrote:
| 
|  > reuseic@sw-eng.falls-church.va.us (ReuseIC) posted with deletions:
|  > Not one of the ten companies below is the least distinguished, nor are
|  > their products particularly distinguished.
|  > 
|  > Intermetrics is famous for peddling C++ at the expense of Ada, and McKee
|  > Consulting, well, just look at the owners resume on csn.net -- what a
|  > joke.
| --------------------------------------------------------
| My resume does include a pointer to a famous quote from FDR about the 
| relevance of people who stay on tthe sidelines and criticize those who 
| are getting the job done. Look for "a touch of attitude", also quoted
| below.
| --------------------------------------------------------
| A Touch of Attitude
| 
| Are the coyotes yapping at your heels?
| Read what FDR is reputed to have said in an excerpt called:
| To the Man in the Arena. <http://www.csn.net/~gmckee/man.arena.html>
| --------------------------------------------------------

Yah, see what I mean:  anyone who quotes FDR must be _all_ bad;  and that
explains it all:  McKee is a Democrat (but God is a Republican).

~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
Re-usable, patented financial software for the Stock Market 
Colin James III, cjames@cec-services.com, @worldnet.att.net
CEC Services, LLC, 2080 Kipling St, Lakewood, CO 80215-1502
Tel: 303.231.9437;  Facs: 303.231.9438;  Data: 303.231.9434 
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~





^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread

* Re: Ada95 products to be developed with 50% taxpayer funding --
  1996-04-20  0:00   ` Ada95 products to be developed with 50% taxpayer funding -- Gary McKee
  1996-04-21  0:00     ` The Right Reverend Colin James III
@ 1996-04-22  0:00     ` Robert C. Martin
  1996-04-23  0:00       ` Colin James III (The Rt Rev'd)
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Robert C. Martin @ 1996-04-22  0:00 UTC (permalink / raw)


Gary McKee wrote:
> 
> In article <31783b08.300759329@snews.zippo.com>,
> cjames@boss.bod.net (The Right Reverend Colin James III) wrote:
> 
>  > reuseic@sw-eng.falls-church.va.us (ReuseIC) posted with deletions:
>  > Not one of the ten companies below is the least distinguished, nor are
>  > their products particularly distinguished.
>  >
>  > Intermetrics is famous for peddling C++ at the expense of Ada, and McKee
>  > Consulting, well, just look at the owners resume on csn.net -- what a
> joke.
> --------------------------------------------------------
> My resume does include a pointer to a famous quote from FDR about the
> relevance of people who stay on tthe sidelines and criticize those who
> are getting the job done. Look for "a touch of attitude", also quoted
> below.
> --------------------------------------------------------
> A Touch of Attitude
> 
> Are the coyotes yapping at your heels?
> Read what FDR is reputed to have said in an excerpt called:
> To the Man in the Arena. <http://www.csn.net/~gmckee/man.arena.html>
> --------------------------------------------------------

It is worth posting:

To the Man in the Arena

It is not the critic who counts, not the man who points out how the
strong man stumbled or where the doer of deeds could have done
them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the
arena; whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives
valiantly; who errs and comes up short again and again; who knows
the great enthusiasms, the great devotions and spends himself in a
worthy cause; who, at the best, knows the triumph of high
achievement; and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while
daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and
timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat. 

attributed to Franklin Delano Roosevelt 

-- 
Robert C. Martin    | Design Consulting   | Training courses offered:
Object Mentor       | rmartin@oma.com     |   Object Oriented Design
14619 N Somerset Cr | Tel: (847) 918-1004 |   C++
Green Oaks IL 60048 | Fax: (847) 918-1023 | http://www.oma.com






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* Re: Ada95 products to be developed with 50% taxpayer funding --
  1996-04-22  0:00     ` Robert C. Martin
@ 1996-04-23  0:00       ` Colin James III (The Rt Rev'd)
  1996-04-23  0:00         ` Jason D. Smith
                           ` (2 more replies)
  0 siblings, 3 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Colin James III (The Rt Rev'd) @ 1996-04-23  0:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: rmartin

"Robert C. Martin" <rmartin@oma.com> wrote:
>Gary McKee wrote:
>> 
>> In article <31783b08.300759329@snews.zippo.com>,
>> cjames@boss.bod.net (The Right Reverend Colin James III) wrote:
>> 
>>  > reuseic@sw-eng.falls-church.va.us (ReuseIC) posted with deletions:
>>  > Not one of the ten companies below is the least distinguished, nor are
>>  > their products particularly distinguished.
>>  >
>>  > Intermetrics is famous for peddling C++ at the expense of Ada, and McKee
>>  > Consulting, well, just look at the owners resume on csn.net -- what a
>> joke.
>> --------------------------------------------------------
>> My resume does include a pointer to a famous quote from FDR about the
>> relevance of people who stay on tthe sidelines and criticize those who
>> are getting the job done. Look for "a touch of attitude", also quoted
>> below.
>> --------------------------------------------------------
>> A Touch of Attitude
>> 
>> Are the coyotes yapping at your heels?
>> Read what FDR is reputed to have said in an excerpt called:
>> To the Man in the Arena. <http://www.csn.net/~gmckee/man.arena.html>
>> --------------------------------------------------------
>

[ugly quotation from one of the most evil and destructive Presidents this 
country has ever had; who was an Anglican, but by birth only, and 
never for a second by choice]

>
>attributed to Franklin Delano Roosevelt 
>
>-- 
>Robert C. Martin    | Design Consulting   | Training courses offered:
>Object Mentor       | rmartin@oma.com     |   Object Oriented Design
>14619 N Somerset Cr | Tel: (847) 918-1004 |   C++
>Green Oaks IL 60048 | Fax: (847) 918-1023 | http://www.oma.com
>
>

Truly words are at a loss to describe what a bad man Robert C Martin 
really is.  May his legion articles and books forever be a gauge as to 
what is ordinary, what is ill-bred, what is ignoble, and what is not to 
be avoided at all costs in the field of object-oriented technology.





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* Re: Ada95 products to be developed with 50% taxpayer funding --
  1996-04-23  0:00       ` Colin James III (The Rt Rev'd)
@ 1996-04-23  0:00         ` Jason D. Smith
  1996-04-23  0:00         ` Jason D. Smith
  1996-04-23  0:00         ` Gabriel Bereny
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Jason D. Smith @ 1996-04-23  0:00 UTC (permalink / raw)


"Colin James III (The Rt Rev'd)" <cjames> wrote
[ ... ]

Now how did he get past my kill-file ... ?


Jason.

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Jason D. Smith |       I'm not young enough to know everything.        |
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* Re: Ada95 products to be developed with 50% taxpayer funding --
  1996-04-23  0:00       ` Colin James III (The Rt Rev'd)
  1996-04-23  0:00         ` Jason D. Smith
  1996-04-23  0:00         ` Jason D. Smith
@ 1996-04-23  0:00         ` Gabriel Bereny
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Gabriel Bereny @ 1996-04-23  0:00 UTC (permalink / raw)


Colin James III (The Rt Rev'd) (cjames) fumed and spluttered:

: Truly words are at a loss to describe what a bad man Robert C Martin 
: really is.  May his legion articles and books forever be a gauge as to 
: what is ordinary, what is ill-bred, what is ignoble, and what is not to 
: be avoided at all costs in the field of object-oriented technology.

Yes, I suppose that words, not being sentient objects, _would_ be 
at a loss to do much of anything beyond merely existing.

And if Martin's writings are "not to be avoided at all costs", what 
are the costs at which they _should_ be avoided, and where can one
find said legion of articles and books at non-avoidance costs should
one wish to not avoid them?

Finally, how can articles and books (non-sentient objects again) be 
"ill-bred"? Are there ill word-breeders amongst us? Ill-word breeders?
Just how does one bring up well-adjusted and well-behaved words? Word
breeders NEED to know.




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* Re: Ada95 products to be developed with 50% taxpayer funding --
  1996-04-23  0:00       ` Colin James III (The Rt Rev'd)
  1996-04-23  0:00         ` Jason D. Smith
@ 1996-04-23  0:00         ` Jason D. Smith
  1996-04-23  0:00         ` Gabriel Bereny
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Jason D. Smith @ 1996-04-23  0:00 UTC (permalink / raw)


[ Newsgroups trimmed - unfortunately not enough for everybody. Sorry ... ]

In article <4lhrof$1n5@mtinsc01-mgt.ops.worldnet.att.net>, "Colin James III 
(The Rt Rev'd)" <cjames> wrote a tremendous amount of blather that would be 
better served via email.

I apology for this bit of the pot calling the kettle black in which I am about 
to engage (this itself would have been sent only via email, but Mr. James' 
infamous email policy casts serious doubt on it reaching its intended target). 
If you would rather read about subjects more on topic, I suggest you skip past 
this article.  

Mr. James, if you are interested in how your image appears to a bystander, and 
why that may be important, read on.

Were I or my company in need of professional services (development in Eiffel, 
no?), one of the concerns I would have would be the working relationship I 
would have with my employees and consultant(s).  Proof of one's ability to 
work in a collaborative environment would be of tremendous value.  Evidence to 
the contrary (indignant name-calling being an excellent example) is also 
invaluable - for such evidence could save tremendous amounts of time and money 
that could otherwise be wasted in a painful (and a quite possibly 
*unproductive*) working relationship.

As a result, Mr. James, I would assume that your public reputation would be of 
the utmost concern.  

This is why I am confused that you spend so much time and effort shaping an 
image of yourself that *appears* to be such a snobbish, opinionated lout.

You may be a quite capable developer, I personally have seen no evidence that 
would prove the case one way or the other.  But, based on the evidence you 
have shown in your various postings, I could neither recommend nor could 
accept your services - even pro bono - I fear the price would simply be too 
high.

You may be able to repair the self-inflicted damage to your reputation, and 
show yourself to some of the newer faces on the net to be a capable engineer - 
*if* you learn to develop some of the following skills:

  o respond to inappropriate and off-topic messages via email
    (scolding is about as off topic as you can get)

  o refrain from the name-calling (that is, unless you *want* to appear like 
    a six year old with a thesaurus and an attitude).

  o offer up some constructive, on-topic contributions.

Finally, if you want to continue to develop that particular honor, do continue 
in your present style.  If, on the other hand, you want to earn a respectable 
living in your chosen profession - I suggest you consider some advice:

        "It is better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool, than
        to open it and remove all doubt." [Samuel Clemens, aka Mark Twain]

        "A fool finds no pleasure in understanding, but delights in airing his
        own opinions" [Solomon, one-time king of Israel, in Proverbs 18:2]

Unfortunately, many of us will never know if you *can* save your reputation, 
for you have the dubious honor of enshrinement in a growing number of 
kill-files.

Jason.

PS: To save you some effort: 
    My FAX: (503) 531-7650.
    My direct manager is Mr. D. Lamkins

Jason.

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Jason D. Smith |       I'm not young enough to know everything.        |
smithj@ngc.com |                                                       |




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