comp.lang.ada
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: ian@rsd.bel.alcatel.be (Ian Ward)
Subject: Re: Unix Haters
Date: 1996/03/28
Date: 1996-03-28T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4jel4b$9nn@btmpjg.god.bel.alcatel.be> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 4jedni$mou@mordred.gatech.edu

James McIninch writes >

> you write for those, not because they're powerful, efficient, easy to work
> with, etc., but because people will buy your stuff. If you write large-scale
> projects for mission-critical applications in networked environments, chances
> are pretty good you'll work with UNIX, which has the greatest market share
> for that sort of thing.

That is more to do with the fact that mostly graduates work in
those areas. The were weaned on Unix which was really cheap for
their college to buy (or free,) and they did not want to use
anything else when they left, twenty years on, and the graduates
now order equipment and stock. 

I see a lot of the people who these days saying VMS is crap and 
difficult to use, but a lot (not all) have not even used it, and
some of those that have not ventured past DCL.

These two operating systems, to me, define the differences between
something that had to be sold, and something that was never
originally designed to be. I am not taking away from the unix team
there are as many clever, nifty, things in Unix, as there are in
the Fiat 500. I am also not saying I cannot use it successfully
either, I have tolerated it now for a few years.

What I am saying is that :

1. Its not reliable, no operating system worth its salt could
have a list of bugs in its manual tables without making serious
attempts to fix them in future releases. This can not now be done
because of the huge numbers of people who have worked on it over
the years, there are reams of software that depend on the bugs.
It is like a bad golfer aiming right to correct a slice,
rather than addressing the root problem.

2. It is not efficient. Ok, so loads of people are bound to argue 
with this one. You'll say, as I have heard hundreds of times before
that you can solve any problem in ten different ways. This, in my
eyes is not efficiency, because it simply means that nine out of the
ten solutions are not as efficient as they could be.

3. Its utilities are not intuitive either, grep, as was quoted
in an earlier article as being a good unix utility, cost me a
weeks work last year, when it could not find simple strings in
a catenation (admittedly massive) series of files. As for tar,
well, the most hilarious thing is that people who use it daily
think it is quite good.

4. One sees few books on comparative strengths and weaknesses
of say, MSDOS and VMS, but there are acres of unix books in
existence comparing unix to MSDOS. What does this say about
its power?

5. It only supports one language, (really.)

6. It is cheap, which is why it succeeded, and it is so simple
(requires so little support) that it will run on anything.
Though I wish it truly supported VMS's asynchronous system traps
in all their power, (and messaging, and command definition)
but it doesn't.

7. It is cheap, like a cheap whore, but I can cope with that,
and as an engineer, I find some of the things it does quite
clever, but I would rather work with an heavily engineered 
operating system that has cost money to develop, and works,
than one which no matter how clever it is, and it is clever,
always leaves you with the feeling that the highly stressed
nature of its solutions are just about ready to crack.

Best regards,

---
Ian Ward's opinions only : ian@rsd.bel.alcatel.be
Just in case you play golf and noticed the mistake, the golfer
I was talking about is left handed, and works in Tayntons
solicitors in Gloucester.




  reply	other threads:[~1996-03-28  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 475+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <00001a73+00002504@msn.com>
     [not found] ` <313EDF38.61C1@lfwc.lockheed.com>
     [not found] ` <4etcmm$lpd@nova.dimensional.com>
     [not found]   ` <BYERLY_J.96Feb7170158@srm9.motsat.sat.mot.com>
1996-02-19  0:00     ` C/C++ knocks the crap out of Ada Ramses Youhana
     [not found]     ` <1996Feb10.111307.113714@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>
1996-02-21  0:00       ` AdaWorks
1996-02-19  0:00   ` C/C++ knocks the Robert I. Eachus
     [not found]   ` <4f4ptt$a1c@newsbf02.news.aol.com>
     [not found]     ` <4g1b7n$l5@mailhub.scitec.com.au>
     [not found]       ` <4g577o$28r@newsbf02.news.aol.com>
1996-02-17  0:00         ` C/C++ knocks the crap out of Ada Ell
1996-02-17  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
1996-02-19  0:00       ` Adam Morris
1996-02-19  0:00         ` Ian S. Nelson
     [not found]       ` <3124B2F3.6D21@escmail.orl.mmc.com>
1996-02-19  0:00         ` Ramses Youhana
1996-02-19  0:00           ` Ted Dennison
     [not found]       ` <JSA.96Feb16135027@organon.com>
     [not found]         ` <313D4D00.875@ix.netcom.com>
1996-02-19  0:00         ` Mike Stark
1996-02-20  0:00           ` Ed Franks
1996-02-21  0:00             ` Matthew M. Lih
1996-02-22  0:00               ` Ted Dennison
1996-02-25  0:00                 ` Thomas G. McWilliams
1996-02-25  0:00                   ` vancleef
1996-02-26  0:00                     ` Matthew M. Lih
1996-02-25  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
1996-02-22  0:00             ` Bill Lee
1996-02-25  0:00               ` Ed Franks
     [not found]         ` <DnuGrG.JrE@news.thomson-lcr.fr>
     [not found]           ` <4hl082INNc7d@keats.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca>
1996-03-15  0:00             ` AdaWorks
1996-03-15  0:00               ` Kazimir Kylheku
1996-03-18  0:00                 ` Matt Kennel
     [not found]         ` <4hf701INNdl7@keats.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca>
     [not found]           ` <4hm6lo$eln@fred.netinfo.com.au>
     [not found]             ` <4hml8s$a1q@solutions.solon.com>
1996-03-15  0:00               ` Robert A Duff
1996-03-15  0:00                 ` Kazimir Kylheku
     [not found]         ` <adaworksDnrqsE.LpC@netcom.com>
     [not found]           ` <4hhred$1rn@sun152.spd.dsccc.com>
     [not found]             ` <4i19mg$vkt@azure.dstc.edu.au>
     [not found]               ` <4i4cf2$crm@sun152.spd.dsccc.com>
1996-03-15  0:00                 ` AdaWorks
1996-03-18  0:00                   ` Kevin Cline
1996-03-19  0:00                     ` Kazimir Kylheku
1996-03-20  0:00                       ` Kevin Cline
1996-03-20  0:00                         ` Richard Pitre
1996-03-21  0:00                         ` Kazimir Kylheku
1996-03-21  0:00                         ` C/C++ knocks the crap out of Ada(Bindings) Scott Moody
1996-03-20  0:00                     ` C/C++ knocks the crap out of Ada AdaWorks
1996-03-22  0:00                       ` Kevin Cline
1996-03-22  0:00                         ` AdaWorks
1996-03-22  0:00                         ` David Weller
1996-03-26  0:00                     ` Jon S Anthony
1996-03-26  0:00                       ` Robert Dewar
1996-03-26  0:00                     ` Ed Falis
1996-03-28  0:00                       ` Kevin Cline
1996-04-04  0:00                       ` Jon S Anthony
1996-03-21  0:00                   ` Jon S Anthony
1996-03-22  0:00                     ` Kevin Cline
1996-03-21  0:00               ` Jon S Anthony
1996-03-22  0:00                 ` Kevin Cline
1996-03-30  0:00                   ` Jon S Anthony
1996-04-01  0:00                     ` Kevin Cline
1996-04-02  0:00                       ` Lawrence Kirby
1996-04-02  0:00                         ` Tom Payne
1996-04-02  0:00                         ` ANSI C and POSIX (was Re: C/C++ knocks the crap out of Ada) David Emery
1996-04-02  0:00                           ` The Right Reverend Colin James III
1996-04-03  0:00                             ` Bill Clinton
1996-04-04  0:00                               ` Forger Bubba Clinton defends David Emery of Grebyn Corp The Right Reverend Colin James III
1996-04-04  0:00                                 ` Kazimir Kylheku
1996-04-05  0:00                                   ` Kazimir Kylheku on exorcism The Right Reverend Colin James III
1996-04-03  0:00                             ` ANSI C and POSIX (was Re: C/C++ knocks the crap out of Ada) David Emery
1996-04-03  0:00                               ` The Right Reverend Colin James III
1996-04-04  0:00                                 ` Dan Pop
1996-04-04  0:00                           ` Lawrence Kirby
1996-04-05  0:00                             ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-05  0:00                               ` Lawrence Kirby
1996-04-05  0:00                                 ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-06  0:00                                   ` Peter Seebach
1996-04-06  0:00                                     ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-16  0:00                                     ` Philip Brashear
1996-04-16  0:00                                       ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-19  0:00                                         ` Chuck Karish
1996-04-05  0:00                               ` Peter Seebach
1996-04-05  0:00                                 ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-06  0:00                                   ` Lawrence Kirby
1996-04-06  0:00                                     ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-07  0:00                                       ` Lawrence Kirby
1996-04-10  0:00                                         ` halvin
1996-04-10  0:00                                           ` Peter Seebach
1996-04-11  0:00                                           ` Dan Pop
1996-04-12  0:00                                           ` Chuck Karish
1996-04-12  0:00                                       ` Chuck Karish
1996-04-12  0:00                                         ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-13  0:00                                           ` Chuck Karish
1996-04-13  0:00                                             ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-13  0:00                                               ` Peter Seebach
1996-04-13  0:00                                                 ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-14  0:00                                                   ` Lawrence Kirby
1996-04-15  0:00                                                   ` Chuck Karish
1996-04-15  0:00                                               ` Chuck Karish
1996-04-16  0:00                                                 ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-16  0:00                                                   ` Chuck Karish
1996-04-16  0:00                                                     ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-12  0:00                                   ` Chuck Karish
1996-04-11  0:00                                     ` Kazimir Kylheku
1996-04-12  0:00                                       ` Chuck Karish
1996-04-12  0:00                                         ` Kazimir Kylheku
1996-04-12  0:00                                       ` Tom Griest
1996-04-12  0:00                                         ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-12  0:00                                     ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-13  0:00                                       ` Chuck Karish
1996-04-13  0:00                                         ` David Emery
1996-04-22  0:00                                       ` Mike McCarty
1996-04-22  0:00                                         ` David Emery
1996-04-05  0:00                             ` David Emery
1996-04-06  0:00                               ` Lawrence Kirby
1996-04-06  0:00         ` Dan Pop
1996-04-07  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-07  0:00             ` Lawrence Kirby
1996-04-07  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-08  0:00                 ` Peter Seebach
1996-04-08  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-08  0:00                     ` Peter Seebach
1996-04-08  0:00                       ` POSIX/Unix conformance (was: ANSI C and POSIX ...) David Emery
1996-04-12  0:00                         ` Chuck Karish
1996-04-13  0:00                           ` David Emery
1996-04-09  0:00                     ` ANSI C and POSIX (was Re: C/C++ knocks the crap out of Ada) Dan Pop
1996-04-09  0:00                       ` James McIninch
1996-04-10  0:00                         ` Dan Pop
1996-04-09  0:00                           ` Danette & Murray Root
1996-04-11  0:00                         ` Tom Wheeley
1996-04-10  0:00                       ` Trademarks (was: Re: ANSI C and POSIX) Norman H. Cohen
1996-04-12  0:00                         ` Teresa Reiko
1996-04-07  0:00             ` ANSI C and POSIX (was Re: C/C++ knocks the crap out of Ada) Peter Seebach
1996-04-08  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-08  0:00                 ` Lawrence Kirby
1996-04-08  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-08  0:00                     ` Peter Seebach
1996-04-09  0:00                       ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-09  0:00                         ` Peter Seebach
1996-04-09  0:00                         ` Kazimir Kylheku
1996-04-08  0:00                     ` Kazimir Kylheku
1996-04-09  0:00                       ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-09  0:00                         ` Kazimir Kylheku
1996-04-09  0:00                           ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-09  0:00                             ` Kazimir Kylheku
1996-04-10  0:00                               ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-10  0:00                                 ` Kazimir Kylheku
1996-04-10  0:00                                   ` Robert A Duff
1996-04-19  0:00                                   ` Bradd W. Szonye
1996-04-19  0:00                                     ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-23  0:00                                       ` Bradd W. Szonye
1996-04-10  0:00                         ` Mike Shannon
1996-04-09  0:00                           ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-09  0:00                             ` Peter Seebach
1996-04-10  0:00                               ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-09  0:00                           ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-11  0:00                           ` Tom Wheeley
1996-04-11  0:00                             ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-11  0:00                             ` Robert A Duff
1996-04-12  0:00                               ` Tom Wheeley
1996-04-12  0:00                                 ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-13  0:00                                   ` Chuck Karish
1996-04-13  0:00                                     ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-19  0:00                                       ` Bradd W. Szonye
1996-04-19  0:00                                         ` David Emery
1996-04-19  0:00                                         ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-22  0:00                                           ` Peter Seebach
1996-04-23  0:00                                         ` Keith Thompson
1996-04-13  0:00                               ` ANSI C and POSIX Laurent Guerby
1996-04-15  0:00                                 ` Chuck Karish
1996-04-16  0:00                                   ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-16  0:00                                     ` Chuck Karish
1996-04-16  0:00                                       ` David Emery
1996-04-17  0:00                                         ` Chuck Karish
1996-04-18  0:00                                           ` David Emery
1996-04-16  0:00                                       ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-17  0:00                                         ` Kazimir Kylheku
1996-04-19  0:00                                           ` Bradd W. Szonye
1996-04-19  0:00                                             ` Peter Seebach
1996-04-20  0:00                                               ` Bradd W. Szonye
1996-04-19  0:00                                             ` Kazimir Kylheku
1996-04-26  0:00                                             ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-04-17  0:00                                     ` Theodore E. Dennison
1996-04-19  0:00                                     ` Bradd W. Szonye
1996-04-21  0:00                                     ` Michael Feldman
1996-04-17  0:00                                   ` Joanne Galindo
1996-04-19  0:00                               ` ANSI C and POSIX (was Re: C/C++ knocks the crap out of Ada) Bradd W. Szonye
1996-04-19  0:00                                 ` Robert A Duff
1996-04-20  0:00                                   ` Bradd W. Szonye
1996-04-19  0:00                                 ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-23  0:00                                   ` Bradd W. Szonye
1996-04-09  0:00                     ` Robert I. Eachus
1996-04-09  0:00                       ` Kazimir Kylheku
1996-04-09  0:00                       ` Peter Seebach
1996-04-25  0:00                       ` BLUE
1996-04-08  0:00                   ` Szu-Wen Huang
1996-04-08  0:00                     ` James McIninch
1996-04-08  0:00                       ` Szu-Wen Huang
1996-04-08  0:00                         ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-19  0:00                           ` Bradd W. Szonye
1996-04-08  0:00                       ` Fergus Henderson
1996-04-08  0:00                         ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-19  0:00                         ` Bradd W. Szonye
1996-04-20  0:00                           ` Fergus Henderson
1996-04-20  0:00                             ` Bradd W. Szonye
1996-04-08  0:00                       ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-11  0:00                         ` Keith Thompson
1996-04-19  0:00                         ` Bradd W. Szonye
1996-04-08  0:00                 ` Peter Seebach
1996-04-08  0:00                   ` Fergus Henderson
1996-04-08  0:00                     ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-08  0:00                       ` Kazimir Kylheku
1996-04-09  0:00                         ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-11  0:00                           ` Tom Wheeley
1996-04-11  0:00                             ` Kazimir Kylheku
1996-04-12  0:00                               ` Peter Seebach
1996-04-13  0:00                               ` Tom Wheeley
1996-04-09  0:00                       ` Peter Seebach
1996-04-08  0:00                     ` Peter Seebach
1996-04-09  0:00                       ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-09  0:00                       ` Fergus Henderson
1996-04-09  0:00                         ` Kenneth Mays
1996-04-10  0:00                           ` Fergus Henderson
1996-04-10  0:00                         ` Tom Payne
1996-04-09  0:00                       ` Fergus Henderson
1996-04-09  0:00                         ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-09  0:00                           ` Kazimir Kylheku
1996-04-10  0:00                     ` Steve Summit
1996-04-10  0:00                       ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-14  0:00                         ` ANSI C and POSIX Steve Summit
1996-04-08  0:00                   ` ANSI C and POSIX (was Re: C/C++ knocks the crap out of Ada) Robert Dewar
1996-04-08  0:00                     ` Kazimir Kylheku
1996-04-09  0:00                       ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-09  0:00                         ` Kazimir Kylheku
1996-04-09  0:00                         ` Lawrence Kirby
1996-04-09  0:00                           ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-09  0:00                             ` Kazimir Kylheku
1996-04-10  0:00                               ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-10  0:00                                 ` Kazimir Kylheku
1996-04-10  0:00                             ` David Emery
1996-04-10  0:00                         ` ANSI C and POSIX Laurent Guerby
1996-04-09  0:00                     ` ANSI C and POSIX (was Re: C/C++ knocks the crap out of Ada) Peter Seebach
1996-04-10  0:00                     ` John Marshall
1996-04-10  0:00                       ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-09  0:00                   ` Steve Tynor
1996-04-09  0:00                     ` Kazimir Kylheku
1996-04-10  0:00                     ` Lawrence Kirby
1996-04-12  0:00                       ` Dr S.J. Harris
1996-04-12  0:00                         ` Peter Seebach
1996-04-10  0:00                     ` Chet
1996-04-10  0:00                       ` Peter Seebach
1996-04-10  0:00                       ` Kazimir Kylheku
1996-04-10  0:00                       ` Tom Watson
1996-04-10  0:00                       ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-12  0:00                   ` Gareth Rees
1996-04-10  0:00                 ` Tom Payne
1996-04-10  0:00                 ` Matt Austern
1996-04-10  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-07  0:00             ` Dan Pop
1996-04-07  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1996-02-20  0:00   ` C/C++ knocks the crap out of Ada Jon S Anthony
1996-02-20  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1996-02-22  0:00     ` Matt Kennel
1996-02-20  0:00   ` Ted Dennison
1996-02-22  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1996-02-20  0:00   ` Jon S Anthony
1996-02-20  0:00   ` Ken Garlington
1996-02-21  0:00     ` Robert S. White
1996-02-20  0:00   ` Lee Graba
1996-02-21  0:00     ` Mark A Biggar
1996-02-20  0:00   ` Ketil Z Malde
1996-02-21  0:00     ` Dirk Dickmanns
1996-02-21  0:00       ` 
1996-02-21  0:00       ` David Weller
1996-02-22  0:00       ` Gene Ouye
1996-02-21  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1996-02-25  0:00       ` Andrew Koenig
1996-02-22  0:00     ` Bill Lee
1996-02-22  0:00     ` Gary McKee
1996-02-20  0:00   ` Jon S Anthony
     [not found]   ` <3114d8fb.5a455349@zesi.ruhr.de>
     [not found]     ` <4f5h5t$f13@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
     [not found]       ` <4g1bgf$l5@mailhub.scitec.com.au>
1996-02-17  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
     [not found]         ` <3124B43F.19E0@escmail.orl.mmc.com>
     [not found]           ` <4g2r2r$ded@stc06.ctd.ornl.gov>
1996-02-17  0:00             ` C/C++ knocks the Robert Dewar
1996-02-17  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
1996-02-18  0:00               ` Ray Toal
1996-02-18  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
1996-02-18  0:00             ` Tucker Taft
1996-02-22  0:00               ` Large Scale OO Development (was Re: C/C++ knocks the ....) Don Harrison
1996-02-22  0:00               ` C/C++ knocks the Matt Kennel
1996-02-24  0:00                 ` Robert A Duff
1996-02-19  0:00             ` Jon S Anthony
1996-02-20  0:00               ` Ray Toal
1996-02-20  0:00                 ` David Weller
1996-02-21  0:00                 ` John DiCamillo
1996-02-23  0:00                   ` Robert A Duff
1996-02-23  0:00               ` Robert I. Eachus
1996-02-24  0:00                 ` Robert A Duff
1996-02-25  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
1996-02-17  0:00         ` C/C++ knocks the crap out of Ada Tuishimi
     [not found]         ` <312515DF.7D3B@cmlj.demon.co.uk>
     [not found]           ` <4g3d70$nnn@queeg.apci.net>
1996-02-17  0:00             ` Chris Littlejohns
1996-02-18  0:00           ` ++           robin
1996-02-17  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
1996-02-19  0:00             ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-02-20  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1996-02-22  0:00                 ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-02-22  0:00                   ` Ken Garlington
1996-02-22  0:00                     ` Ted Dennison
1996-02-19  0:00           ` Pete Becker
1996-02-20  0:00             ` Nasser Abbasi
1996-02-20  0:00               ` Andrew Koenig
1996-02-21  0:00                 ` Jay Martin
1996-02-21  0:00                 ` Nasser Abbasi
1996-02-25  0:00                   ` J Greene
1996-02-26  0:00                     ` Peter Finney
     [not found]             ` <4 <dirk.824894312@demokrit>
1996-02-21  0:00               ` Nasser Abbasi
1996-02-26  0:00                 ` Matthew B. Kennel
1996-02-27  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
1996-02-27  0:00                     ` ron thompson
     [not found]             ` <4ggshe$7bk@go <4gh5r8$i2@mailhub.scitec.com.au>
1996-02-22  0:00               ` Nasser Abbasi
1996-02-22  0:00                 ` design never happens? Gary McKee
1996-02-22  0:00                 ` C/C++ knocks the crap out of Ada Robert Dewar
1996-02-23  0:00                 ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-02-22  0:00             ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-02-22  0:00               ` Ramses Youhana
1996-02-24  0:00               ` Ray Toal
1996-02-24  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
1996-02-24  0:00                 ` JR Crosmer
1996-02-27  0:00                   ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-02-26  0:00                 ` James O'Connor
1996-02-23  0:00             ` Tom Payne
1996-02-19  0:00         ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-02-21  0:00           ` Ramses Youhana
1996-02-21  0:00           ` Peter Seebach
1996-02-21  0:00           ` Peter Seebach
     [not found]         ` <4g2vn3$rgi@dfw.dfw.net>
1996-02-18  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1996-02-19  0:00             ` AdaWorks
1996-02-23  0:00             ` Ghost In The Machine
1996-02-24  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1996-02-25  0:00                 ` Ghost In The Machine
1996-02-19  0:00           ` Ramses Youhana
1996-02-19  0:00             ` Ian S. Nelson
1996-02-21  0:00             ` Peter Seebach
1996-02-20  0:00     ` Ketil Z Malde
1996-02-20  0:00     ` Matt Austern
1996-02-23  0:00     ` Matthias Blume
1996-02-25  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
     [not found]   ` <4gaa <4gd94r$isu@mack.rt66.com>
1996-02-21  0:00     ` Nasser Abbasi
1996-02-21  0:00       ` David Weller
1996-02-21  0:00   ` Jon S Anthony
1996-02-21  0:00   ` Ken Garlington
1996-02-22  0:00   ` Ketil Z Malde
1996-02-22  0:00   ` C/C++ ... " Norman H. Cohen
1996-02-23  0:00     ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-02-22  0:00   ` C/C++ knocks the crap " Jon S Anthony
1996-02-26  0:00   ` Matt Austern
1996-02-26  0:00   ` Matt Austern
     [not found] ` <Pine.A32.3.91.960313165249.124278B-100000@red.weeg.uiowa.edu>
     [not found]   ` <4i9ld6$m2v@rational.rational.com>
     [not found]     ` <4iah20$p7k@saba.info.ucla.edu>
1996-03-15  0:00       ` Ian Johnston (by ubsswop)
1996-03-15  0:00       ` Peter Seebach
1996-03-15  0:00       ` Kazimir Kylheku
1996-03-15  0:00         ` Jay Martin
1996-03-15  0:00       ` Kazimir Kylheku
1996-03-16  0:00       ` Zsoter Andras
1996-03-19  0:00         ` Kazimir Kylheku
1996-03-21  0:00         ` Glenn H. Porter
1996-03-17  0:00       ` Unix Haters Alan Brain
1996-03-22  0:00         ` moi
1996-03-24  0:00           ` Tore Joergensen
1996-03-24  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
1996-03-26  0:00               ` Wallace E. Owen
1996-03-26  0:00                 ` Tore Joergensen
1996-03-26  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
1996-03-26  0:00                   ` Richard Pitre
1996-03-27  0:00                     ` Robert I. Eachus
1996-03-27  0:00                       ` Richard Pitre
1996-03-28  0:00                   ` Kenneth Mays
1996-03-26  0:00           ` Erik W. Anderson
1996-04-01  0:00             ` Anthony Shih Hao Lee
1996-03-26  0:00           ` Erik W. Anderson
1996-03-26  0:00           ` Erik W. Anderson
1996-03-27  0:00           ` Verne Arase
1996-03-27  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
1996-03-28  0:00               ` Jeff Dege
1996-03-28  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
1996-03-28  0:00               ` Robert Crawford
1996-03-28  0:00               ` James McIninch
1996-03-28  0:00                 ` Ian Ward [this message]
1996-03-28  0:00                   ` Larry Weiss
1996-04-01  0:00                   ` Laurence Barea
1996-04-02  0:00                     ` Ian Ward
1996-04-08  0:00                       ` Laurence Barea
1996-04-09  0:00                         ` Ian Ward
1996-03-28  0:00               ` Robert L. Spooner, AD3K
1996-03-28  0:00                 ` Dan Pop
1996-03-28  0:00                 ` Kazimir Kylheku
1996-03-28  0:00               ` Gary Fiber
1996-03-29  0:00               ` Verne Arase
1996-03-30  0:00               ` fredex
1996-03-31  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-01  0:00                   ` Peter Seebach
1996-04-01  0:00                     ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-04  0:00                       ` Dan Pop
1996-04-05  0:00                       ` Edwin Lim
1996-04-06  0:00                       ` Wallace E. Owen
1996-04-01  0:00                     ` Tom Payne
1996-04-01  0:00                   ` Lawrence Kirby
1996-04-10  0:00                     ` Steve Detoni
1996-04-11  0:00                       ` Lawrence Kirby
1996-04-01  0:00                   ` Dan Pop
     [not found]                   ` <4jok7f$1l2@solutions.s <4jp1rh$22l@galaxy.ucr.edu>
1996-04-04  0:00                     ` sfms
1996-03-30  0:00               ` Thomas Koenig
1996-03-31  0:00               ` Kengo Hashimoto
1996-04-02  0:00                 ` Kazimir Kylheku
1996-04-02  0:00                   ` The Amorphous Mass
1996-04-02  0:00               ` Max Waterman
1996-03-27  0:00             ` Richard Pitre
1996-03-20  0:00       ` Ada Parsing Tools (was Re: C/C++ knocks the crap out of Ada) Mike Young
1996-03-21  0:00         ` Robert A Duff
1996-03-22  0:00           ` 
1996-03-22  0:00             ` 
1996-03-21  0:00         ` Kazimir Kylheku
1996-03-20  0:00       ` John Woodruff
1996-03-15  0:00 ` C/C++ knocks the crap out of Ada Kazimir Kylheku
1996-03-16  0:00   ` Jay Martin
1996-03-17  0:00     ` Kazimir Kylheku
1996-03-19  0:00     ` Sheldon White
1996-03-20  0:00       ` Jay Martin
1996-03-16  0:00 ` Jay Martin
1996-03-20  0:00   ` David Taylor
     [not found] ` <31442F19.6C13@lfwc.lockheed.com>
     [not found]   ` <4i26uhINNsd@keats.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca>
     [not found]     ` <31457584.2475@lfwc.lockheed.com>
     [not found]       ` <4i4s5f$igc@solutions.solon.com>
     [not found]         ` <3146E324.5C1E@lfwc.lockheed.com>
     [not found]           ` <4i98gg$8n1@solutions.solon.com>
1996-03-15  0:00             ` Logic (was C/C++ knocks the crap out of Ada) Ken Garlington
     [not found]             ` <Do9tMv.2p3@world.std.com>
     [not found]               ` <4ia41k$e04@solutions.solon.com>
1996-03-18  0:00                 ` C/C++ knocks the crap out of Ada Norman H. Cohen
1996-03-21  0:00                   ` Gripe about Ada, rep specs that won't Doug Rogers
1996-03-20  0:00                     ` Robert Dewar
1996-03-21  0:00                       ` Doug Rogers
1996-03-21  0:00                         ` Robert Dewar
1996-03-22  0:00                           ` Ken Garlington
1996-03-22  0:00                         ` Robert A Duff
1996-03-21  0:00                           ` Robert Dewar
1996-03-22  0:00                           ` Doug Rogers
1996-03-22  0:00                             ` Robert A Duff
1996-03-22  0:00                               ` Robert Dewar
1996-03-22  0:00                             ` Robert Dewar
1996-03-22  0:00                             ` Robert Dewar
1996-03-23  0:00                               ` Robert A Duff
1996-03-23  0:00                                 ` Robert Dewar
1996-03-24  0:00                                   ` Robert A Duff
     [not found]                                     ` <dewar.827698571@schonberg>
1996-03-25  0:00                                       ` Robert A Duff
1996-03-25  0:00                                         ` Robert Dewar
1996-03-26  0:00                                           ` Robert A Duff
1996-03-26  0:00                                             ` Robert Dewar
1996-03-26  0:00                                               ` Robert A Duff
1996-03-26  0:00                                                 ` Robert Dewar
1996-03-26  0:00                                                 ` Robert Dewar
1996-03-26  0:00                                               ` Doug Rogers
1996-03-26  0:00                                                 ` Robert Dewar
1996-03-25  0:00                                 ` Doug Rogers
1996-03-25  0:00                                   ` Robert Dewar
1996-03-22  0:00                     ` Pascal OBRY
1996-03-22  0:00                       ` Robert A Duff
1996-03-22  0:00                         ` Robert Dewar
1996-03-22  0:00                         ` Robert Dewar
1996-03-22  0:00                     ` Laurent Guerby
1996-03-22  0:00                       ` Robert Dewar
1996-03-22  0:00                         ` Robert A Duff
1996-03-22  0:00                         ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-03-22  0:00                           ` Robert Dewar
1996-03-25  0:00                     ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-03-25  0:00                       ` Robert A Duff
1996-03-25  0:00                       ` Robert Dewar
1996-03-19  0:00                 ` C/C++ knocks the crap out of Ada Charles H. Sampson
1996-03-19  0:00                   ` Peter Seebach
1996-03-15  0:00           ` Logic (was C/C++ knocks the crap out of Ada) Peter Seebach
     [not found]           ` <Pine.A32.3.91.960313165249.124278B-100000@ <4ic92p$2fa@ubszh.fh.zh.ubs.com>
1996-03-29  0:00             ` C/C++ knocks the crap out of Ada mich
1996-03-21  0:00       ` Ron Collins
1996-03-28  0:00   ` Unix Haters Dan Pop
1996-03-30  0:00     ` Lawrence Kirby
     [not found]       ` <danpop.828240895@rscernix>
1996-04-01  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-01  0:00           ` Michael Feldman
1996-04-01  0:00           ` Mike Young
1996-04-11  0:00             ` morphis
1996-04-11  0:00               ` James McIninch
1996-04-11  0:00                 ` morphis
1996-04-12  0:00                 ` Teresa Reiko
1996-04-01  0:00           ` Dan Pop
1996-04-03  0:00             ` Michael Feldman
1996-04-04  0:00               ` Dan Pop
1996-04-02  0:00   ` Ralf Graf
1996-03-26  0:00 Alain Graziani
1996-03-27  0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1996-03-29  0:00   ` Wallace E. Owen
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
1996-03-29  0:00 Dr.Dmitry A.Kazakov
1996-04-02  0:00 Philippe Verdy
replies disabled

This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox