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From: Georg Bauhaus <rm.dash-bauhaus@futureapps.de>
Subject: Re: [OT] interesting reason why a language is considered good
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 13:48:04 +0200
Date: 2012-04-16T13:48:05+02:00	[thread overview]
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On 16.04.12 12:43, Marius Amado-Alves wrote:
> Love OT threads in this clever forum:-)
> 
> Actually there is a bit of thruth in the absurd no keyword thing: *many* keywords can get in the way of naming identifiers. Ada, for one, has a bit too many keywords, with some good identifier candidates (when, others...)

"when" and "others" are general abstractions. What kind
of programs will in effect be about general abstractions?

(For example, "when" does not name the operation that happened
at the time that "when" should be denoting. Provided "when" is
supposed to ask for time, not conditions. I think that adding
the name of what happened to "when" to form an identifier will
reduce the amount of obfuscation that general abstractions will
incur: When_Added, When_Leaving, etc. The ambiguity of "when"
in natural language (also meaning "if") is an additional problem.)

("Others" does not name the "distinguishing line" that informs
about the qualities of the elements in the "others" set. Why are
those other objects (or values) different in this specific
program? Again, adding a descriptive name to others should
reduce the amount of obfuscation that general abstractions
will incur.)



  reply	other threads:[~2012-04-16 11:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-04-15 10:27 [OT] interesting reason why a language is considered good Nasser M. Abbasi
2012-04-15 11:57 ` J-P. Rosen
2012-04-16 10:37   ` Peter C. Chapin
2012-04-15 12:27 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-04-17  6:59   ` tonyg
2012-04-17  7:43     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-04-15 14:05 ` Bill Findlay
2012-04-15 14:21 ` Pascal Obry
2012-04-15 14:54   ` Simon Wright
2012-04-15 15:34     ` Pascal Obry
2012-04-17  5:42       ` Brad Moore
2012-04-17 16:11         ` Simon Wright
2012-04-17 16:33           ` Robert A Duff
2012-04-17 19:34             ` Simon Wright
2012-04-17 21:42               ` Robert A Duff
2012-04-17 22:24                 ` Randy Brukardt
2012-04-18  7:00                   ` stefan-lucks
2012-04-17 21:17             ` Jeffrey Carter
2012-04-15 23:53     ` Brian Drummond
2012-04-16 10:43 ` Marius Amado-Alves
2012-04-16 11:48   ` Georg Bauhaus [this message]
2012-04-16 13:06     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-04-16 15:01       ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-04-16 15:31         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-04-16 17:11           ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-04-16 17:19             ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-04-16 18:00             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-04-16 21:48               ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-04-17  3:43                 ` Randy Brukardt
2012-04-17  4:43                   ` Bill Findlay
2012-04-17  7:46                   ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-04-17 22:32                     ` Randy Brukardt
2012-04-18  7:10                       ` stefan-lucks
2012-04-18 23:48                         ` Randy Brukardt
2012-04-19 14:22                           ` Shark8
2012-04-17 15:48                   ` Simon Wright
2012-04-17 16:15                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-04-17 19:33                       ` Simon Wright
2012-04-17  7:34                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-04-17 16:01                   ` Simon Wright
2012-04-17 17:42                   ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-04-17 19:17                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-04-17  3:24           ` Randy Brukardt
2012-04-17  3:33           ` Randy Brukardt
2012-04-16 19:55   ` sbelmont700
2012-04-17  0:48   ` Peter C. Chapin
2012-04-17 21:59 ` anon
2012-05-13  4:14   ` David Thompson
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