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From: Georg Bauhaus <rm.dash-bauhaus@futureapps.de>
Subject: Re: Ada2012 Invariants and obaque types
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 14:17:11 +0200
Date: 2011-06-21T14:17:12+02:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4e008bc8$0$6568$9b4e6d93@newsspool3.arcor-online.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <17t4afbmsrbm4.7llaajq91zz3.dlg@40tude.net>

On 21.06.11 14:08, Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 01:53:31 -0700 (PDT), Martin wrote:
> 
>> package P1 is
>>    type T1 is tagged private
>>       with Invariant => Is_Valid (T1);
> 
> Unrelated to Ada, but in theory, an invariant is a private implementation
> dependent thing. An invariant is trivially true in all public views of the
> object, i.e. between any two calls to the object's operations. From that
> follows, when mentioned in a public part then:
> 
>    type T1 is tagged private with Invariant => True;
> 
> (Again, I don't know which ideas Ada designers had about invariants, I am
> not a language lawyer.)

In another theory, the invariant may express things
such as
 Num_Green_Lights (T1) >= 3;
or
'Length < State_of_Things (T1) * 2;
where Num_Green_Lights is a publicly visible function whose
result is somehow computed.  These predicates would be informative,
and formal.

Would they be private implementation dependent things?  Or could
I expect, seeing the public view and its invariant, the possibility
of different implementations (of both the view and the invariant)?



  reply	other threads:[~2011-06-21 12:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-06-21  8:53 Ada2012 Invariants and obaque types Martin
2011-06-21 10:27 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-06-21 10:36   ` Martin
2011-06-21 10:46   ` Martin
2011-06-21 18:42     ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-06-21 10:43 ` Ludovic Brenta
2011-06-21 10:53   ` Martin
2011-06-21 11:14 ` Martin
2011-06-21 11:31 ` Robert A Duff
2011-06-21 11:48   ` Martin
2011-06-21 12:01   ` Martin
2011-06-21 12:13     ` Robert A Duff
2011-06-21 12:22       ` Martin
2011-06-21 12:54         ` Robert A Duff
2011-06-21 13:00           ` Martin
2011-06-21 12:08 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-06-21 12:17   ` Georg Bauhaus [this message]
2011-06-21 12:31     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-06-21 13:29       ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-06-21 14:42         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-06-21 18:37   ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-06-21 18:53     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-06-21 19:34       ` Vinzent Hoefler
2011-06-21 20:52         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-06-21 21:50           ` Vinzent Hoefler
2011-06-22  7:55             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-06-21 21:18       ` Manuel Collado
2011-06-22  8:00         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-06-22 10:39 ` Egil Høvik
2011-06-22 13:57   ` Martin
2011-06-23 16:21 ` anon
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