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From: Georg Bauhaus <rm.dash-bauhaus@futureapps.de>
Subject: Re: DOS, was Re: Ada Tutor Web Site Shutting Down
Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 09:25:25 +0200
Date: 2011-05-13T09:25:25+02:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4dccdce5$0$6888$9b4e6d93@newsspool2.arcor-online.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fe6338a8-afde-46a6-bac2-3a2f785377a2@l14g2000pro.googlegroups.com>

On 5/13/11 12:40 AM, Adam Beneschan wrote:
> On May 12, 3:17 pm, Georg Bauhaus<rm.dash-bauh...@futureapps.de>
> wrote:
>>
>> For one thing, DOS effectively ruled out a number of design
>> patterns:  you need something on top of DOS in order to
>> operate(!) these patterns.  Such as programmable auxiliary
>> tasks doing background work.
>
> I may respond to other parts of the post, but... you do remember that
> this was originally for an 8088 processor, right?  Not a Pentium.  I
> may be wrong, but my recollection was that a lot of the task/process
> functionality of the chip was added to the series later (80286?), and
> wasn't present in the 8086/8088.  It may not have been good enough to
> support virtual addressing/paging, either, I don't know.  I know it
> didn't have straight 32-bit addressing.  So please, before you bash
> DOS too much and talk about what a mistake it was to choose it, please
> consider that this may have been the best anyone could have done
> within the hardware constraints.  You can't really judge what should
> have happened in 1980 based on the technology we have available in
> 2011.

Extending the set of examples of how people rolled their own,
-  Minix is a more elaborate OS for the IBM PC (with Intel 8088),
-  Coherent OS is, too.

If I understand correctly, then a TI MSP430 is not much
different in some respects.  You get a number of operating systems
for it, including �C/OS-II which can also run on a Zilog Z80.

I'm mentioning these because, with some effort, you get
software whose qualities differ from DOS's.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-05-13  7:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-04-06 23:04 Ada Tutor Web Site Shutting Down John Herro
2011-04-08 10:57 ` Thomas Løcke
2011-04-22 16:10   ` Brad Cantrell
2011-04-27 16:02     ` John Herro
2011-04-29  6:00       ` qunying
2011-05-05 12:29         ` John Herro
2011-05-05 17:52           ` Rugxulo
2011-05-05 21:12             ` Randy Brukardt
2011-05-07  8:36               ` Fritz Wuehler
2011-05-10 21:36               ` Rugxulo
2011-05-12  0:45                 ` Randy Brukardt
2011-05-12 13:28                   ` Rugxulo
2011-05-12 14:44                     ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-05-12 17:40                       ` Rugxulo
2011-05-12 18:24                         ` Adam Beneschan
2011-05-12 22:17                           ` DOS, was " Georg Bauhaus
2011-05-12 22:40                             ` Adam Beneschan
2011-05-13  5:14                               ` tmoran
2011-05-13  7:25                               ` Georg Bauhaus [this message]
2011-05-13 20:32                                 ` Rugxulo
2011-05-13 22:25                                   ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-05-17 13:09                                   ` Paul Colin Gloster
2011-05-13 20:12                             ` Rugxulo
2011-05-14  0:26                               ` Randy Brukardt
2011-05-14 13:52                               ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-14 21:29                                 ` Rugxulo
2011-05-15  0:14                                   ` Rugxulo
2011-05-15  0:26                               ` Rugxulo
2011-05-15  7:27                                 ` Niklas Holsti
2011-05-17 13:17                               ` Paul Colin Gloster
2011-05-14  0:17                             ` Randy Brukardt
2011-05-14 14:02                               ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-16 23:58                                 ` Randy Brukardt
2011-05-14  1:21                             ` Adam Beneschan
2011-05-14  0:07                           ` Randy Brukardt
2011-05-14 13:08                           ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-12 18:44                         ` DOS, was " tmoran
2011-05-14 14:17                           ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-13 16:19                         ` Paul Colin Gloster
2011-05-13 17:22                           ` Frank J. Lhota
2011-05-13 18:10                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-05-14  0:03                     ` Randy Brukardt
2011-05-14 14:21                       ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-16 23:49                         ` Randy Brukardt
2011-05-14 21:22                       ` Rugxulo
2011-05-19 14:56                         ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-14 12:44                     ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-14 21:20                       ` Vinzent Hoefler
2011-05-14 12:32                 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-14 21:19                   ` Vinzent Hoefler
2011-05-19 15:00                     ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-12 19:19           ` Simon Wright
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