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From: Georg Bauhaus <rm.dash-bauhaus@futureapps.de>
Subject: Re: High-Integrity OO and controlled types
Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 17:22:50 +0200
Date: 2011-05-03T17:22:50+02:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4dc01dca$0$6885$9b4e6d93@newsspool2.arcor-online.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1in9ypl17vu1t$.1shivr91x8zw6.dlg@40tude.net>

On 03.05.11 14:27, Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote:
> On Tue, 03 May 2011 13:28:12 +0200, Georg Bauhaus wrote:
> 
>> On 03.05.11 11:59, Maciej Sobczak wrote:
>>
>>> Another angle: the fact that the lack of controlled types in HI
>>> profiles can be considered as a problem is entirely a result of the
>>> fact that Ada completely screwed this aspect at the beginning.
>>> Controlledness should not be based on tags - it should be a completely
>>> orthogonal property of the type,
>>
>> Actually, in non-flat languages like Ada, scope exit
>> actions should be based on scopes, not (just) types,
>> as types can effectively span multiple scopes.
> 
> But typed languages tend to consider actions as operations defined on
> types, with certain contracts, reusable, clearly bound effects etc.
> 
> Actions as amorphous chunks of code tossed here and there depending on
> scope is a way different ["anisotropic"] approach. In particular it does
> not fit into safe modular software design, because of this "anisotropy".

What will type-object/module code look like if it is equivalent
to its nested analog?  Better?

My guess is that to achieve the necessary linking, one passes
Italian food handles to constructors and/or established registries
that receive "events" like "a scope X has been left".

In general, would the type-object/module approach work
better?  For example, assuming something like the naturally nested
Integrate function.



  reply	other threads:[~2011-05-03 15:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-05-01 20:38 High-Integrity OO and controlled types Maciej Sobczak
2011-05-01 21:29 ` Robert A Duff
2011-05-01 22:44   ` Simon Wright
2011-05-02  7:59   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-05-02 16:32     ` Robert A Duff
2011-05-02 19:39       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-05-03  0:08         ` Robert A Duff
2011-05-03  7:30           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-05-03 16:51             ` Robert A Duff
2011-05-02  9:50 ` Cyrille
2011-05-02 10:01   ` Cyrille
2011-05-02 19:25     ` Maciej Sobczak
2011-05-03  9:32       ` Cyrille
2011-05-03  9:59         ` Maciej Sobczak
2011-05-03 10:24           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-05-03 16:53             ` Robert A Duff
2011-05-03 17:37               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-05-03 11:28           ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-05-03 12:27             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-05-03 15:22               ` Georg Bauhaus [this message]
2011-05-03 16:28                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-05-04  8:48                   ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-05-04  9:28                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-05-04 14:46                       ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-05-04 15:01                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-05-04 15:25                           ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-05-04 16:23                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-05-04 17:06                               ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-05-04 20:16                                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-05-05  7:13                                   ` Maciej Sobczak
2011-05-05 10:58                                     ` Cyrille
2011-05-05 12:35                                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
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