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From: Hyman Rosen <hyrosen@mail.com>
Subject: Re: Air traffic control system in Java
Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2011 18:00:07 -0500
Date: 2011-03-03T18:00:07-05:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4d701d79$0$17918$a8266bb1@postbox2.readnews.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <835e91b1-50f7-4b20-beaf-5b5afcc66cc5@r4g2000prm.googlegroups.com>

On 3/3/2011 5:50 PM, Rick wrote:
> Simply, Ada does not (as a standard language)
> provide for construction of a Graphical User Interface.  Students (and
> commercial software houses), in my experience, insist that it is no
> use if you cannot draw pretty pictures with it.

Again, this nonsense. This is far worse than when I, as the
stereotypical stupid C++ advocate, say "subtypes, big deal,
I can code that up as a class".

Graphical user interfaces are how *all* computer programs now
communicate and interact with their users. If it is painful to
construct a GUI in some programming system then programmers are
correct to reject that system, because building programs with
GUIs is their job, and why would they want to make their lives
difficult?

In fact, for systems like air traffic control, the graphical user
interface is one of the most vital parts of the system, because it
must communicate to its users an accurate and easy to grasp picture
of the state of the traffic.

Calling the ability to build user interfaces "drawing pretty pictures"
so desperately misses the point that it's tragic.



  reply	other threads:[~2011-03-03 23:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-03-03 20:46 Air traffic control system in Java Hyman Rosen
2011-03-03 21:01 ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2011-03-03 21:02   ` Hyman Rosen
2011-03-03 21:12     ` Vinzent Hoefler
2011-03-08  7:26       ` Martin Krischik
2011-03-16 18:21         ` Vinzent Hoefler
2011-03-03 21:01 ` KK6GM
2011-03-03 21:13 ` Vinzent Hoefler
2011-03-03 21:27   ` Hyman Rosen
2011-03-03 21:34     ` Vinzent Hoefler
2011-03-03 21:35       ` Hyman Rosen
2011-03-03 21:44         ` Vinzent Hoefler
2011-03-03 21:58           ` Hyman Rosen
2011-03-03 22:16             ` Vinzent Hoefler
2011-03-03 23:29               ` Robert A Duff
2011-03-04  2:56                 ` anon
2011-03-05  5:31                 ` Vinzent Hoefler
2011-03-03 22:36           ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-03-03 22:40             ` Hyman Rosen
2011-03-04  0:44               ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-03-03 22:50             ` Vinzent Hoefler
2011-03-07 12:26     ` jimmaureenrogers
2011-03-07 15:09       ` Hyman Rosen
2011-03-03 22:50 ` Rick
2011-03-03 23:00   ` Hyman Rosen [this message]
2011-03-04  1:07     ` KK6GM
2011-03-04 17:07       ` Hyman Rosen
2011-03-04 17:24         ` KK6GM
2011-03-04 17:36           ` Hyman Rosen
2011-03-04 18:00             ` KK6GM
2011-03-04 18:11               ` Hyman Rosen
2011-03-04 18:18                 ` KK6GM
2011-03-04 18:24                   ` Hyman Rosen
2011-03-04 18:51                     ` Vinzent Hoefler
2011-03-04 20:18                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-03-04 20:23                         ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2011-03-04 21:31                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-03-04 21:44                             ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2011-03-04 22:08                               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-03-05  1:08                               ` Randy Brukardt
2011-03-05  5:15                                 ` Vinzent Hoefler
2011-03-05  6:45                                   ` Shark8
2011-03-05  7:15                                     ` Vinzent Hoefler
2011-03-05  7:37                                       ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2011-03-05  7:50                                         ` Vinzent Hoefler
2011-03-05  8:28                                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-03-05 23:32                                           ` Rick
2011-03-06  9:21                                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-03-06 22:47                                               ` Rick
2011-03-05  9:15                                         ` Ludovic Brenta
2011-03-05  9:27                                           ` Vinzent Hoefler
2011-03-05  9:32                                             ` Ludovic Brenta
2011-03-05 11:37                                         ` Peter C. Chapin
2011-03-05 20:17                                         ` Jeffrey Carter
2011-03-05 20:18                                         ` Jeffrey Carter
2011-03-05 21:58                                         ` Jeffrey Carter
2011-03-06  0:13                                         ` GTK Ada, was: " Simon Clubley
2011-03-06  0:47                                         ` Jeffrey Carter
2011-03-06 16:23                                           ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2011-03-06 17:09                                             ` Jeffrey Carter
2011-03-06 21:59                                               ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2011-03-06 23:52                                                 ` Jeffrey Carter
2011-03-07  0:07                                                   ` Jeffrey Carter
2011-03-06 17:00                                         ` Jeffrey Carter
2011-03-06 17:54                                         ` Tero Koskinen
2011-03-05  8:07                                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-03-05  8:14                                         ` Shark8
2011-03-05  8:36                                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-03-05  8:10                                       ` Shark8
2011-03-05  9:01                                         ` Vinzent Hoefler
2011-03-06 23:22                                           ` Shark8
2011-03-07 15:27                                         ` Julian Leyh
2011-03-05 11:20                                 ` Peter C. Chapin
2011-03-07  5:06                                 ` Hyman Rosen
2011-03-04 20:18                       ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2011-03-04 20:31                         ` Vinzent Hoefler
2011-03-04 17:14     ` Vinzent Hoefler
2011-03-04 17:26       ` Hyman Rosen
2011-03-05  5:25         ` Vinzent Hoefler
2011-03-04 17:34       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-03-04 18:17       ` Shark8
2011-03-04 23:40     ` Rick
2011-03-04  8:26   ` Ludovic Brenta
2011-03-06 22:23 ` KK6GM
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