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From: Georg Bauhaus <rm.dash-bauhaus@futureapps.de>
Subject: Re: The state of functional programming
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 18:16:57 +0200
Date: 2010-07-28T18:16:57+02:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4c5057f9$0$7655$9b4e6d93@newsspool1.arcor-online.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2adc4d8d-210e-429c-8188-9b1e99c2718e@d17g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>

On 28.07.10 17:24, J.s wrote:

> Functional programming languages express ideas at a higher level and
> allow users to focus on the challenge of problem solving instead of
> the process of writing code. A programming language like F# provides a
> �tool bag� of functions that users can pick from to solve their
> problem.   Functional programming includes concepts such as
> immutability to reduce dependencies between components, generics to
> express solutions that work over many different kinds of data, and
> functions as values to make it easy to abstract units of a solution
> into reusable pieces."
> 
> 
> 
> Does anyone have any thoughts on this?

Yes, and Grady Booch has said a few things against functional
programming (hype) very recently no less substantiated than the above
collection of claims.

I haven't met anyone who thinks that knowing functional programming style,
in particular familiarity with the consequences of no mutable values
isn't a valuable experience.  As is the experience of so called fusions,
and of mutable variables in functional programming languages (really
functional any longer?): the inevitable consequence of trying to
make a functional program meet the requirements of predictable
SPACE and TIME complexity.

To distinguish the above quote about F# from language marketing,
consider the questions:

"What is an idea at a higher level?"
 (explaining "idea" and "height")

"When one assembles functions a la Hughes (point free style),
how is the thinking process different from that performed
by the OO-programmer assembling classes and their protocols?"

"Regarding OO vs functional, is one good without the other?"
(which one?)


Georg



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Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2010-07-28 16:16 ` Georg Bauhaus [this message]
2010-07-28 19:37   ` The state of functional programming Kulin Remailer
2010-07-28 23:34     ` deadlyhead
2010-07-28 16:31 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2010-07-28 23:35   ` J.s
2010-07-28 16:40 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-07-28 17:47   ` (see below)
2010-07-28 18:40     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-08-03  3:15     ` Randy Brukardt
2010-08-03 13:57       ` (see below)
2010-07-28 19:09   ` Warren
2010-07-28 19:35     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-07-29 15:20       ` Warren
2010-07-29 17:00         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-07-29 19:19           ` Warren
2010-07-29 20:40             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-07-29 21:01               ` Warren
2010-07-29 23:09                 ` Georg Bauhaus
2010-07-30  8:50                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-07-30  9:17                   ` Niklas Holsti
2010-07-30  9:29                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-07-29 20:46             ` Niklas Holsti
2010-07-30 13:52               ` Warren
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