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From: Georg Bauhaus <rm-host.bauhaus@maps.futureapps.de>
Subject: Re: Why so hard to come up with a simple embedded Ada system?
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 18:29:39 +0200
Date: 2010-07-17T18:29:40+02:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4c41da73$0$6890$9b4e6d93@newsspool2.arcor-online.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3fb3f705-d0f2-4323-8215-19ed91adbe24@c10g2000yqi.googlegroups.com>

On 7/17/10 10:45 AM, MRE wrote:
> Personally I have a
> project up and
> running where three of my students write code in Ada for AVR (8-Bit
> and 32-Bit).
> You can find decent Ada cross-compilers for both and that's what I
> use.
>
> If you ask me however to do a similar thing for say MSP430, sorry I
> can't. I don't
> have a clue how to generate the cross-compiler for Ada and I don't
> know how to
> write / adapt the Ravenscar-Runtime. Furthermore I just don't have the
> time to lern
> it and I lack the ressources to have my students do it.

Is there, in your view, a way to approach the subject as
a cooperative effort, touchy as it may be, with the simpler
goal of gradually improving an AVR run-time system and the tools?
Maybe making it portable where possible so more vendors
become interested?

If PR noise and bureaucratic overhead have shown to be
counterproductive, maybe occasional produce from here
and there is more effective in helping the effort catch on.
An AVR teaching environment could then become visible even
on the radar of those departments where a preference is
for more abstract computer models.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-07-17 16:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-07-14  4:55 Why so hard to come up with a simple embedded Ada system? usenet
2010-07-14  5:33 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2010-07-14  6:27   ` usenet
2010-07-14 18:05     ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2010-07-14  7:23 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-07-17  8:45   ` MRE
2010-07-17  9:46     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-07-19 11:06       ` MRE
2010-07-19 17:34         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-07-19 18:39           ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2010-07-17 16:29     ` Georg Bauhaus [this message]
2010-07-18  0:26       ` usenet
2010-07-18 10:15         ` Simon Wright
2010-07-18 19:26           ` usenet
2010-07-18 11:48         ` jonathan
2010-07-18 15:26           ` Britt Snodgrass
2010-07-18 15:50             ` Britt Snodgrass
2010-07-19 23:00         ` Brian Drummond
2010-07-19 11:09       ` MRE
2010-07-14  8:03 ` anon
2010-07-14 11:43 ` jonathan
2010-07-14 12:36 ` jonathan
2010-07-14 12:46 ` Ludovic Brenta
2010-07-14 19:56 ` jonathan
2010-07-15  1:36 ` Steve D
2010-07-15  9:50   ` Alex R. Mosteo
2010-07-17 14:25 ` Lucretia
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