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From: Georg Bauhaus <rm.dash-bauhaus@futureapps.de>
Subject: Re: GCC conflict on Ubuntu for mixed Ada/C++ project
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 17:15:04 +0200
Date: 2010-06-15T17:15:05+02:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4c1798f8$0$7662$9b4e6d93@newsspool1.arcor-online.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <25018ee3-be56-45e3-bc73-6a6a5f1a3c81@a29g2000vbl.googlegroups.com>

On 15.06.10 15:45, zeta_no wrote:
> On Jun 14, 4:55 pm, Warren <ve3...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> zeta_no expounded in news:c4259b0a-3d91-45e8-b88f-
>> d76c4c0e0...@z31g2000vbk.googlegroups.com:
>>
>>> Stephen Leake wrote:
>>
>>>> Compared to what? What other open source language community is better
>>>> organized?
>>
>>> Python appeared in 1991.  It has bindings and projects for almost
>>> everything.  It is used everywhere on open source projects.  How much (...)
> 
>>  Both have their uses, but their popularity
>> hardly makes a "superiority statement".  It only means that
>> they've been well accepted without implying much about their
>> application.  It's like saying MS Windows is the best design
>> based upon sales.
> 
> Never said Python is superior to Ada, the question was: What other
> open source language community is better organized?
> Python, managed to attract armies of dev., new and old.  What happened
> with Ada during those years?
> 
> ... they closed university class on Ada.  (Ecole Polytechnique de
> Montreal, in Canada: INF6300, dead)

Superficial observation tells that one generation of
teachers leaves schools, another is coming. Do they
have a choice when selecting a shiny reputable language?

Ada's early history may have been a debacle, both socially
and economically.  For proof see the 2nd � of

http://www.stsc.hill.af.mil/crosstalk/frames.asp?uri=1996/03/AnAdaFor.asp

If teachers' opinions have been shaped during that time, then
possibly they have not changed much, later.  Whatever arguments
against Ada have been invalidated by events, as a teacher wanting
to choose Ada you'd have to stand up against previous choices,
in particular against choices of influential colleagues still in
town...

However, there is the GNAT Academic Program, and the list
of participating universities is reportedly growing,
http://www.adacore.com/home/academia/members/

So if attracting teachers and students is a sign of community
organization, this should should be one data point.



  reply	other threads:[~2010-06-15 15:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-17  3:29 GCC conflict on Ubuntu for mixed Ada/C++ project zeta_no
2010-05-18  7:53 ` Stephen Leake
2010-05-18 13:40   ` zeta_no
2010-05-18 14:39     ` Ludovic Brenta
2010-05-19  9:12       ` Stephen Leake
2010-05-19  9:28         ` Ludovic Brenta
2010-05-19  9:09     ` Stephen Leake
2010-05-18 12:56 ` Ludovic Brenta
2010-05-18 14:12   ` zeta_no
2010-05-18 14:36     ` Ludovic Brenta
2010-05-19  9:16     ` Stephen Leake
2010-05-19  9:22       ` Ludovic Brenta
2010-05-20 10:39         ` Stephen Leake
2010-05-20 12:10           ` Ludovic Brenta
2010-05-24 17:04             ` zeta_no
2010-05-24 21:42               ` zeta_no
2010-05-24 22:45                 ` Improving the first contact with Ada (was: GCC conflict on Ubuntu for mixed Ada/C++ project) Ludovic Brenta
2010-06-13 17:26                   ` zeta_no
2010-06-13 19:25                     ` Improving the first contact with Ada Ludovic Brenta
2010-06-13 19:54                       ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-06-13 20:35                       ` zeta_no
2010-06-13 21:22                         ` Ludovic Brenta
2010-06-13 22:35                           ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-06-14  8:03                             ` Ludovic Brenta
2010-06-14  8:47                               ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2010-06-14  9:24                                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-06-14  9:33                                 ` Ludovic Brenta
2010-06-15  6:48                                   ` Stephen Leake
2010-06-14 10:39                                 ` Georg Bauhaus
2010-06-14 12:19                                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-06-14 13:06                                     ` Georg Bauhaus
2010-06-14 14:29                                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-06-14 15:59                                         ` Georg Bauhaus
2010-06-14 16:44                                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-06-14 20:34                                   ` Warren
2010-06-14  9:10                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-06-29  2:51                         ` Randy Brukardt
2010-06-14  8:35                     ` Georg Bauhaus
2010-07-06 20:15                       ` jonathan
2010-07-06 12:29                     ` Improving the first contact with Ada (was: GCC conflict on Ubuntu for mixed Ada/C++ project) Nicholas Collin Paul de Gloucester
2010-07-06 12:57                       ` Ludovic Brenta
2010-07-06 13:36                         ` Improving the first contact with Ada Georg Bauhaus
2010-05-25  2:26                 ` GCC conflict on Ubuntu for mixed Ada/C++ project Stephen Leake
2010-06-13 20:10                   ` zeta_no
2010-06-14 20:55                     ` Warren
2010-06-15 13:45                       ` zeta_no
2010-06-15 15:15                         ` Georg Bauhaus [this message]
2010-06-15 17:05                         ` Niklas Holsti
2010-05-25  2:15               ` Stephen Leake
2010-05-18 22:38 ` Ludovic Brenta
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